I didn't know he believed in Doctrine...

More double talk and gobbledygook. If he believed what he said, He never would have held Assisi.

The proof is in the putting. Religious indifferentism is the new ecuмenism.

May God look and judge.

Mortalium Animos, Pope Pius XI:

4. Is it not right, it is often repeated, indeed, even consonant with duty, that all who invoke the name of Christ should abstain from mutual reproaches and at long last be united in mutual charity? Who would dare to say that he loved Christ, unless he worked with all his might to carry out the desires of Him, Who asked His Father that His disciples might be "one."[1] And did not the same Christ will that His disciples should be marked out and distinguished from others by this characteristic, namely that they loved one another: "By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love one for another"?[2] All Christians, they add, should be as "one": for then they would be much more powerful in driving out the pest of irreligion, which like a serpent daily creeps further and becomes more widely spread, and prepares to rob the Gospel of its strength. These things and others that class of men who are known as pan-Christians continually repeat and amplify; and these men, so far from being quite few and scattered, have increased to the dimensions of an entire class, and have grouped themselves into widely spread societies, most of which are directed by non-Catholics, although they are imbued with varying doctrines concerning the things of faith. This undertaking is so actively promoted as in many places to win for itself the adhesion of a number of citizens, and it even takes possession of the minds of very many Catholics and allures them with the hope of bringing about such a union as would be agreeable to the desires of Holy Mother Church, who has indeed nothing more at heart than to recall her erring sons and to lead them back to her bosom. But in reality beneath these enticing words and blandishments lies hid a most grave error, by which the foundations of the Catholic faith are completely destroyed.

The problem with many 'traditional conservatives' inside the Vatican II Church is that they flock to and highlight all Benedict XVI's seemingly 'conservative' or Catholic statements, while completely ignoring his mass amounts of heresies, as if they don't exist, or as if the conservative statements cancel out all his 'liberal' or heretical statements.

What's the point of quoting him speaking against indifferentism, when there's twice as many quotes and actions from him that endorse religious indifferentism? It's because they are lying to themselves; trying to convince themselves that this man is somehow Catholic.

False Irenicism is directly condemned in the docuмents of the Second Vatican Council as well.

Do you know what else is in the Second Vatican Council docuмents?

"Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jєωs should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures."

"The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God..."

"...Eastern Christians who are in fact separated in good faith from the Catholic Church, if they ask of their own accord and have the right dispositions, may be admitted to the sacraments of Penance, the Eucharist and the Anointing of the Sick"

"Undeniably, those who willfully shut out God from their hearts and try to dodge religious questions are not following the dictates of their consciences, and hence are not free of blame; yet believers themselves frequently bear some responsibility for this situation."

"The order of bishops, which succeeds to the college of apostles and gives this apostolic body continued existence, is also the subject of supreme and full power over the universal Church, provided we understand this body together with its head the Roman Pontiff and never without this head."

Even in the beginnings of this one and only Church of God there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly condemned. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions made their appearance and quite large communities came to be separated from full communion with the Catholic Church-for which, often enough, men of both sides were to blame.

"For men who believe in Christ and have been truly baptized are in communion with the Catholic Church even though this communion is imperfect...But even in spite of them [doctrinal differences] it remains true that all who have been justified by faith in Baptism are members of Christ's body, and have a right to be called Christian, and so are correctly accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church."

The title of this thread made me chuckle when I saw it this morning.

False Irenicism is directly condemned in the docuмents of the Second Vatican Council as well. The only true ecuмenism worthy of the name can be one that preaches the whole Faith in its purity and entirety, and a return to the Catholic Church. God bless the Holy Father.

Then what did he mean when he said

"We no longer understand ecuмenism in the sense of a return"?

Heresy.

There is but ONE church of the faithful, etc...