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To the surprise of no-one, Pope(?) Leo has doubled down on the Vatican docuмent rejecting Marian titles such as Co-Redemptrix; 



https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pope-leo-doubles-down-on-vatican-rejection-of-co-redemptrix/ 

Re: Pope(?) Leo Doubles Down on Rejecting Co-Redemptrix Title for Mary
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2026, 08:54:09 AM »
"Leo" is part of a pedocriminal ring and was involved with McCarrick, like Francis was. The strange part would be expecting a golem like him to be a devout christian. 


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Re: Pope(?) Leo Doubles Down on Rejecting Co-Redemptrix Title for Mary
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2026, 09:29:29 AM »
So, of all the things Trads are focused on, this really is one of the least horrible things the Modernist have done.  I know there's a lot of emotional attachment to Our Lady, but it would not somehow be to dishonor Our Lady if we were to, say, not grant her the title of Fourth Person of the Holy Trinity.  In fact, erroneous titles only dishononr her.

There were PRE-VATICAN II THEOLOGIANS, approved and respected, cited by the Dimond Brothers, who also said that the title of Co-Redemptrix is problematic, confusing, and potentially mis leading, and "best avoided".

Now, one might RIGHTLY be cynical that this is the motivation of the Modernist heretics, to avoid confusion, since Bergoglio practially reveled in it, bragging about how he liked to cause messes, and the confusion of Fiducia Supplicans they felt was easily addressed by putting in a sentence of explanation about how it's not to resemble a marrige in any way and that the relationship wasn't being blessed, just the individuals.

Now, the title is defensible, but I have not yet seen a Trad actually defend it theologically against the objections that have been brought against the Title, but merely rend their garments and virtue signal about how much they're devoted to Our Lady and all that.

I believe the title is not only defensible, but very apt, and should be bestowed upon Our Lady, and the necessary distinctions easily explained in a sentence or two alongside the proclamation ... so I disagree with the Dimond Brothers, but as of this time no one has properly defend the title from a theological perspective.  I will do that myself when I have time.

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Re: Pope(?) Leo Doubles Down on Rejecting Co-Redemptrix Title for Mary
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2026, 09:52:58 AM »
This is just one you can't "get" them on in terms of heresy.

Meanwhile, they routinely and regularly and pertinacioulsy deny EENS dogma, contradicting verbatim various EENS definitions, but since very few Trads don't share the Conciliar Modernist interpretation of EENS dogma and the Conciliar Modernist ecclesiology ... they're looking for stuff to pin on them, straining the gnat on relatively minor things ... when the obvious one is staring them in the face.

THE Seismic shift that occurred at Vatican II had everything to do with EENS and the resulting new ecclesiology.  EVERYTHIGN.  There's no error there, apart from possibly an exaggeration of episcopal collegiality, that doesn't derive directly from the need to redefine Church into something more expansive than the visible Catholic Church in order to get various non-Catholics "saved".  But most Trads live in a cognitive dissonance, denouncing the Conciliar "religious indifferentism" and the "heretical ecclesiology" ... while holding the same ecclesiology themselves and denouncing the eeeeevil Father Feeney while foaming at the mouth.

Re: Pope(?) Leo Doubles Down on Rejecting Co-Redemptrix Title for Mary
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2026, 11:43:00 AM »

Attempting to undermine the Blessed Virgin is a true sign that the judaic usurpation of the Seat has begun it's death spiral.

pope Bob, a jew conman, has failed in his papal acting role.