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Offline Johannes

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American Theologian Promoted by Pope Francis Calls for Focus On Scripture, Evangelization| National Catholic Register

What must modern Catholics, especially the young, know about the Second Vatican Council?

"Many young Catholics today are drawn to tradition because in a world of sound bites and one-minute fame they long for what is transcendent, sublime, beautiful, and enduring. It is crucial for them to understand that Vatican II was not a rejection of tradition but fidelity to the Church’s living tradition, which develops in accord with the needs of the age, led by the Holy Spirit. 
Vatican II recalibrated our devotion to tradition. It took out, polished, and repristinated some aspects of authentic tradition that had been forgotten or sidelined, and it set aside some aspects of tradition (small “t”) that had accrued over time but were less well suited to conveying the mystery of Christ. The implementation of the council was inconsistent and chaotic in some respects, but the council remains the lodestar for the renewal of the Church in our time."


But remember, you must believe that these post-conciliar "popes", "cardinals", "papal theologians", etc. are both somehow Catholic and non-Catholic at the same time, a "greeaat mystery... this is what +ABL held" (sic).






Offline DecemRationis

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Well, that is what an even higher authority than the Archbishop called it:

2 Th. 2:7  For the mystery of iniquity already worketh; only that he who now holdeth, do hold, until he be taken out of the way.
Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.


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...the liturgical formation of all Catholics so that they can enter more deeply into the liturgy and experience its transformative power in their lives...

Errrr... isn't that what we do every time we assist at the Traditional Latin Mass?

My sense of awe and worshipfulness (trying to find words to describe it, I don't want to use "love", that's kind of mushy) at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass intensifies each time I assist at it.  It does that all by itself.  It's nothing you have to work at.  

Might be that ex opere operato thing.

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Yeah, it's the hermeneutic of continuity crap, and the progression, aka "deeper understanding" of dogma, all to pretend they're not Modernists, believing that the change is not in Tradition but tradition.

100% false.  V2 didn't merely change some accidentals.  There was fundamental, substantial, transformative change ... and the core heresy of Vatican II is the new ecclesiology that guts Traditional (with a capital T) ecclesiology, the soteriology, and the subjectivism.

They keep saying that they haven't changed anything essential ... but it's 100% bullcrap.  They can say it all they want, but that doesn't make it true.

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... develops in accord with the needs of the age, led by the Holy Spirit.
 

Vatican II recalibrated our devotion to tradition. It took out, polished, and repristinated some aspects of authentic tradition that had been forgotten or sidelined, and it set aside some aspects of tradition (small “t”) that had accrued over time but were less well suited to conveying the mystery of Christ. The implementation of the council was inconsistent and chaotic in some respects, but the council remains the lodestar for the renewal of the Church in our time."

So, go on, please do name some of these "aspects of authentic tradition" that had been forgotten or sidelined.  And, do, pray tell, list some of the ones that V2 somehow "polished" and "repristinated" (sound like Antiquarianism?).  But, how did that happen, since the Holy Spirit has led the Church.  Of course, this implies that the Traditional traditions were UNauthentic, that they somehow had ACCRUED (were accretions), but NOW, the AUTHENTIC ones have been rediscovered, as apparently the Holy Spirit had been on hiatus until He reawakened at Vatican II.

Oh, the council is a lode alright, or, rather, a load, a load of heretical non-Catholic crap.

Speaking of polishing, this is just polishing the turd that is Vatican II.


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Of course we pass over the fact that no woman can be a "theologian" or "Doctor of the Church" (with all due respect to St. Therese, St. Teresa, etc.)