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Poll

Do the N.O. clergy hold office in the Catholic Church? If so, how is that possible?

Yes, they belong to the N.O. & adhere to the Catholic Church & they do hold office.
1 (6.3%)
Yes, they belong to the N.O. & adhere to the Catholic Church but do not hold office.
1 (6.3%)
No, they do not adhere to the Catholic Church, but they do hold office. (Thesis-ish)
4 (25%)
No, they neither adhere to the Catholic Church, nor do they hold office. (Totalism-ish)
9 (56.3%)
Other (please explain)
1 (6.3%)

Total Members Voted: 15

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Offline Meg

Re: Poll: Do the Novus Ordo clergy hold legitimate office in the Catholic Church?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2025, 05:50:59 PM »
Quote from: Everlast22 on January 24, 2025, 11:27:28 AM
maybe that's just it. Not recognizing and resisting IS scary. It's makes you into a pariah. The Latin Mass alone on Sunday doesn't make you a strong Catholic in any way shape or form. Ever notice how a lot of R&R's tend to be worldy for what they supposedly adhere to?

How is it that being a Sedevacantist makes a Catholic less worldly? 
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Offline Everlast22

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Re: Poll: Do the Novus Ordo clergy hold legitimate office in the Catholic Church?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2025, 06:34:19 PM »
Quote from: Meg on January 24, 2025, 05:50:59 PM
How is it that being a Sedevacantist makes a Catholic less worldly?
that's not what I was saying. 


....Meg
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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Poll: Do the Novus Ordo clergy hold legitimate office in the Catholic Church?
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2025, 02:14:33 PM »
I picked other because "No, they do not adhere to the Catholic Church, but they do hold office. (Thesis-ish)" was not quite what I would say. The problem is that some in the Novus Ordo do try to adhere to the Catholic Church despite the leaders, like the FFSP and ICK, (I know, some of their priests are traditional and some of their priests are modernist).

I think that what we need is a firm leader, who is fierce as a lion for Truth in public, but soft as a lamb when counseling individuals. (I stole that from how someone described +Williamson recently.)  All these ideas are interesting to discuss, but a future Pope will have a lot of work to do in putting the Catholic Church back in order.
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Offline hgodwinson

Re: Poll: Do the Novus Ordo clergy hold legitimate office in the Catholic Church?
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2025, 06:10:36 PM »
Quote from: Everlast22 on January 24, 2025, 11:27:28 AM
maybe that's just it. Not recognizing and resisting IS scary. It's makes you into a pariah. The Latin Mass alone on Sunday doesn't make you a strong Catholic in any way shape or form. Ever notice how a lot of R&R's tend to be worldy for what they supposedly adhere to?
Hey, can I just ask, worldly compared to whom? While I do think that trads need to stick up for their religion in the public forum more (you can count me among this number), I feel confident in saying that the only groups in the western world that are less worldly are the Amish. If we always degrade our fellow Catholics as worldly it may become a self fulfilling prophesy.
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