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Pius XII and His Underground Church
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2010, 07:44:21 PM »
Are you sure about this, Jamie?  If so, this should be pointed out to the man who is selling these DVDs.

He does have quite an array of things - he even has a DVD on Necedah and, of course, a few with Dr. Commaraswami.


Pius XII and His Underground Church
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 08:11:12 PM »
My understanding is that the latter named individual( whatever the correct spelling if his name) is a big Fraud.


Pius XII and His Underground Church
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2010, 01:36:58 AM »
Quote from: roscoe
My understanding is that the latter named individual( whatever the correct spelling if his name) is a big Fraud.


please elaborate

Pius XII and His Underground Church
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2010, 02:34:54 AM »
Quote from: Alexandria
Are you sure about this, Jamie?  If so, this should be pointed out to the man who is selling these DVDs.

He does have quite an array of things - he even has a DVD on Necedah and, of course, a few with Dr. Commaraswami.



Hi Alexandria,

I am quite sure.  Here is the relevant text from the CE:

"An Italian translation of the Latin in pectore, "in the breast", i.e. in the secret of the heart. It happens, at times, that the pope, after creating some cardinals in consistory, adds that he has appointed one or more additional cardinals, whom he reserves in petto, and whom he will make known later: "alios autem [v.g. duos] in pectore reservamus, arbitrio nostro quandoque declarandos." Until they have been publicly announced these cardinals acquire no rights, and if the pope dies before having declared their names they do not become members of the Sacred College."

You may be interested to know that Popes Benedict XIV, Gregory XVI and Pius IX were all named cardinals in pectore but they were announced publicly shortly after.

Here is the catholic encyclopedia article: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08025b.htm

Pius XII and His Underground Church
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2010, 03:33:41 AM »
Well if he was made a cardinal in pectore to operate benind the iron curtain I doubt it would be made public. I'm certain in places where the church is persecutated they wouldn't be revealing who was made bishop or cardinal.