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Offline DecemRationis

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Pius X Encyclical "Ex Quo Nono" or "Ex Quo"
« on: July 28, 2010, 06:15:41 PM »
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  • I was reading a review of Patrick Henry Omlor's The Robber Church by Griff Ruby, in which appeared the following:

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    I would also have appreciated it presenting a full text of the Papal encyclical Ex Quo Nono which it quotes frequently, and in support of its strongest propositions. That docuмent is suppressed now, repudiated by today's Vatican, and almost unknown, the small extracts quoted here being the only portions of it I or virtually all Catholics living today have been privileged to read.


    Indeed, upon researching the docuмent on the internet, I could not find the encyclical, but found a few references to an "Ex Quo" or an "Ex Quo nono" by Pius X.

    Any one have more information on this?

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    Pius X Encyclical "Ex Quo Nono" or "Ex Quo"
    « Reply #1 on: July 28, 2010, 07:56:14 PM »
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    « Reply #2 on: July 28, 2010, 08:00:59 PM »
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  • As it is not very long, if you would like me to send it to some Frenchmen I know for translation, just let me know...I may just do so of my own accord...
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    « Reply #3 on: July 28, 2010, 08:18:42 PM »
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  • I am very interested in reading this in English. I hope someone does find it in English or have it translated and then post it here. It must be significant to be suppressed and ignored.
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    « Reply #4 on: July 28, 2010, 10:37:12 PM »
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  • Here is a portion in English from Denzinger:

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    No less rashly than falsely does one approach this opinion, that the dogma concerning the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Son by no means is taken from the very words of the Gospel, or is sanctioned by the faith of the ancient Fathers; most imprudently, likewise, is doubt raised as to whether the sacred dogmas on purgatory and on the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary were acknowledged by the holy men of earlier years;. . . regarding the constitution of the Church . . . first of all an error, long since condemned by Our predecessor, Innocent X, is being renewed [cf. n. 1091], in which it is argued that St. Paul is held as a brother entirely equal to St. Peter; then, with no less falsity, one is invited to believe that the Catholic Church was not in the earliest days a sovereignty of one person, that is a monarchy; or that the primacy of the Catholic Church does not rest on valid arguments. But . . . the Catholic doctrine on the most Blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist is not left untouched when it is taught inflexibly that the opinion can be accepted which maintains that among the Greeks the words of consecration do not produce an effect unless preceded by that prayer which they call epiclesis, although, on the other hand, it is well known that to the Church there belongs no right whatsoever to innovate anything touching on the substance of the sacraments; and no less inharmonious with this is the view that confirmation conferred by any, priest at all is to be held valid.
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    « Reply #5 on: July 28, 2010, 11:25:21 PM »
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  • So it's in Denzinger? I'll check on that. Odd that wouldn't come up on an internet search.

    Gladius, before we have your French friend going through the bother of translating, let's check on Denzinger.

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    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.

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    « Reply #6 on: July 28, 2010, 11:29:36 PM »
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  • It seems Caraffa had the whole excerpt from Denzinger:

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    [From the letter, "Ex quo,,' to the Archbishops Apostolic

    Delegates in Byzantium, in Greece, in Egypt, in Mesopotamia, in Persia, in Syria, and in the Oriental Indies, December 26, 1910]

    2147a No less rashly than falsely does one approach this opinion, that the dogma concerning the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Son by no means is taken from the very words of the Gospel, or is sanctioned by the faith of the ancient Fathers;--most imprudently, likewise, is doubt raised as to whether the sacred dogmas on purgatory and on the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary were acknowledged by the holy men of earlier years;--. . . regarding the constitution of the Church . . . first of all an error, long since condemned by Our predecessor, Innocent X, is being renewed [cf. n. 1091], in which it is argued that St. Paul is held as a brother entirely equal to St. Peter;--then, with no less falsity, one is invited to believe that the Catholic Church was not in the earliest days a sovereignty of one person, that is a monarchy; or that the primacy of the Catholic Church does not rest on valid arguments.--But . . . the Catholic doctrine on the most Blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist is not left untouched when it is taught inflexibly that the opinion can be accepted which maintains that among the Greeks the words of consecration do not produce an effect unless preceded by that prayer which they call epiclesis, *although, on the other hand, it is well known that to the Church there belongs no right whatsoever to innovate anything touching on the substance of the sacraments; and no less inharmonious with this is the view that confirmation conferred by any, priest at all is to be held valid.

    These opinions are noted as "grave errors."


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    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 28, 2010, 11:34:34 PM »
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  • Ran the French through an internet translator, not sure if the French posted here is entire; because this is all I came up with:

    Saint Pius X LETTER EX QUO NO NO (December 26, 1910) By a writing which is blamed on the question of the return of churches to Catholic unity Ever since the day, the decline of the ninth century, the nations of the East have begun to be torn down to the unity of the Catholic Church, it is difficult to tell the quantity of efforts which have been made by saints characters in order to bring in the breast of this Church the brothers dissidents. Over all, the Pontiffs, Our Predecessors, under the load they are filled to defend the faith and of ecclesiastical unity, have failed to stop any attempt by either paternal exhortation, or by official delegations or by solemn councils, the very schism that was fatal to the West a great sorrow and caused serious damage East. They testify to this concern, just to name a few, and Gregory IX, Innocent IV, Clement IV, Gregory X, Eugenius IV, Gregory XIII and Benedict XIV (the Constitution of our ad nuper March 16, 1743 prescribes a profession Special faith Orientals). But nobody knows with what eagerness generous in recent times, Our Predecessor of happy memory, Leo XIII, has invited all nations of the East to reunite the Roman Church. "For us, he says (Address If leaks in re, 13 December 1880, the Cardinals, Acta tome II, p. 179, see also the Apostolic Letters praeclara gratulationis of June 20, 1894, Acta t. XIV, p. 195 ) is a fact that even the memory of the very ancient glory of the East and the reputation of his services to mankind We are a charm. There, indeed, is the cradle of salvation of mankind that are the origins of Christian wisdom, that's where, as a plentiful river, flowed to the West the flow of all the benefits we received with the Holy Gospel ... By delivering our mind these considerations, we do not want and want nothing more than to give our care that throughout the East revive the virtue and greatness of their ancestors. And more so that the course of human events it leaves appear from time to time evidence to be hoped that the peoples of the East, long separated from the bosom of the Roman Church, will be reconciled one day, God willing, with her ".
    It is certainly not least, you know, Venerable Brethren, We desire that makes us want to see soon shine on the day, subject to the wishes of so many eager devotees, which falls quite definitely the wall has long separated the two peoples, which, entwined in the embrace of one faith and charity, they will finally bloom again implored both peace and where there will be only one fold and one Pastor (John x, 16).
    We were under the impression of these feelings when once, in a review of recent foundation, Roma e l'Oriente, appeared an article which caused us great grief. It was titled: "Thinking about the question of church union." The writing is full of so many and so serious theological errors, and even historical, it was difficult to earn more in fewer pages.

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    « Reply #8 on: July 31, 2010, 08:20:41 AM »
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  • From the Acta, published at the Vatican website:

     http://www.vatican.va/arc...3%20[1911]%20-%20ocr.pdf

    Pages 117-121. In Latin, of course. So much for Mr. Ruby's "suppression" theory.

    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.

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    Re: Pius X Encyclical "Ex Quo Nono" or "Ex Quo"
    « Reply #9 on: July 26, 2019, 07:02:36 AM »
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  • Although this topic was last commented upon many years ago, since I came upon a link with the whole text, I thought it might be interesting to put here:

    Ex Quo (English & Latin)
    "Recent reforms have amply demonstrated that fresh changes in the liturgy could lead to nothing but complete bewilderment on the part of the faithful" Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani

    "Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop

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    Re: Pius X Encyclical "Ex Quo Nono" or "Ex Quo"
    « Reply #10 on: August 03, 2019, 11:47:21 PM »
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  • Here is a link to an English translation;

    https://www.papalencyclicals.net/ben14/b14exquo.htm


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    Re: Pius X Encyclical "Ex Quo Nono" or "Ex Quo"
    « Reply #11 on: June 24, 2020, 10:35:24 AM »
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  • Glad I came back to this after all these years. 

    Thanks, guys. 
    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.