Author Topic: Is theres a chance of Russia being not actually consecrated? (Read 4319 times)

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #60 on:** March 19, 2013, 04:31:15 PM »

Even considering the two Lucias, at least til 1984, the testimonies were consistent. From Tuy in 1929, having the vision of the Mother of God, Sr. Lucy always maintained that the Pope was to consecrate Russia, together with all the bishops of the world, to the Immaculate Heart.

roscoe · « **Reply #61 on:** March 19, 2013, 05:18:02 PM »

One would think that the poster QVP is totally ignorant of Papal Primacy. A specific reference to what has been alleged has still not been provided. This is very similar to the last spoof which claimed that all-seeing eye/ pyramid symbolism is originally Catholic. No source was ever provided for that either. :detective:

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #62 on:** March 20, 2013, 05:30:16 PM »

:rolleyes: Try looking in Sr. Lucy's memoirs for the 1929 vision at Tuy, in which the Blessed Virgin specifically asks for the consecration of Russia by the Pope in union with all bishops of the world. This doesn't even deal with Papal Primacy, which is extremely limited, so don't use such a non sequitur.

If you are so insistent on the source, here it is: The Whole Truth About Fatima Volume 2: The Secret and the Church, pp. 462-465, 554-555

roscoe · « **Reply #63 on:** March 20, 2013, 05:58:10 PM »

I do not have the book. Whatever it says, Pius XII knows better than anyone what actions are required re: Fatima & i trust him. If u want to trash the Pope, be my guest.