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Offline ClarkSmith

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"Who am I to judge gαy people?"
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2013, 11:21:38 PM »
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  • Quote from: TheKnightVigilant
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    That horrible crime, on account of which corrupt and obscene cities were destroyed by fire through divine condemnation, causes us most bitter sorrow and shocks our mind, impelling us to repress such a crime with the greatest possible zeal.

    Quite opportunely the Fifth Lateran Council [1512-1517] issued this decree: "Let any member of the clergy caught in that vice against nature, given that the wrath of God falls over the sons of perfidy, be removed from the clerical order or forced to do penance in a monastery" (chap. 4, X, V, 31).

    So that the contagion of such a grave offense may not advance with greater audacity by taking advantage of impunity, which is the greatest incitement to sin, and so as to more severely punish the clerics who are guilty of this nefarious crime and who are not frightened by the death of their souls, we determine that they should be handed over to the severity of the secular authority, which enforces civil law.

    Therefore, wishing to pursue with greater rigor than we have exerted since the beginning of our pontificate, we establish that any priest or member of the clergy, either secular or regular, who commits such an execrable crime, by force of the present law be deprived of every clerical privilege, of every post, dignity and ecclesiastical benefit, and having been degraded by an ecclesiastical judge, let him be immediately delivered to the secular authority to be put to death, as mandated by law as the fitting punishment for laymen who have sunk into this abyss.


    -Pope St. Pius V

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/n009rp_ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖPriests.htm


    Saint Peter Damian wrote  a  book condemning ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts by priests.   'Book of Gomorrah' is worth reading if you have the time. Saint Peter Damian is considered a Doctor of the Church.  He should be a saint that modern clergy turn to since he faced similar problems in his time. He is mostly ignored, though.


    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    "Who am I to judge gαy people?"
    « Reply #31 on: July 29, 2013, 11:45:29 PM »
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  • Back in 1988 ,  Rome excommunicated archbishop Lefebvre for disobedience.

    At the same time Rome protected rapists of children and other pervert priests who broke their vows of chastity.  

    There was forgiveness to perverts.

    There was no forgiveness to traditional Catholics.

    They punished good and rewarded evil.  Rome is not Catholic.

    Pope Francis is the Pope and he is supposed to preach against evil. He is lukewarm

    Pope st Pope Pius V said that all the evils in the world was because of lukewarm Catholics.






     

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    "Who am I to judge gαy people?"
    « Reply #32 on: July 30, 2013, 12:20:51 AM »
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  • Francis is really beyond the pale of credulity.  The sifting continues.

    Francis is an absurdity, Benedict's (likely) forced resignation is not going to help the Jєωs.

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    "Who am I to judge gαy people?"
    « Reply #33 on: July 30, 2013, 12:34:45 AM »
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  • The legions of demons are all cheering and celebrating, while exclaiming, "gαy it up, man, gαy it up!" ..... "our father, Satan, wants more children's lives destroyed and severed from the Holy One's Church through pervert predation by our minions wearing the Roman collar."

    (note: they do not say Jesus' name, instead, they say "Holy One's" because they tremble at the mention of His name.)  
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    "Who am I to judge gαy people?"
    « Reply #34 on: July 30, 2013, 01:53:13 AM »
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  •  :scratchchin:Think About It.
    Since when does a Catholic priest, much less the pope, declare he hasn't the right to judge sin- when Christ Himself gives to priests that power?  Also, since when does any Catholic, much less the pope, "search" for God when He has already proven Himself to be Jesus Christ?  Can Francis be telling us the truth?  That he really can't judge, and that he is "searching" for God?  If so, think what that means.
     :furtive:
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    « Reply #35 on: July 30, 2013, 02:20:11 AM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    29 July 2013 Last updated at 09:14 ET

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23489702#TWEET837994



    Pope Francis: Who am I to judge gαy people?

    The Pope's position on gαy people appears to contrast with that of his predecessor

    Pope Francis has said gαy people should not be marginalised but integrated into society.

    Speaking to reporters on a flight back from Brazil, he reaffirmed the Roman Catholic Church's position that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts were sinful, but ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ orientation was not.

    "If a person is gαy and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge him?"

    He also said he wanted a greater role for women in the Church, but insisted they could not be priests.

    The Pope arrived back in Rome on Monday after a week-long tour of Brazil - his first trip abroad as pontiff - which climaxed with a huge gathering on Rio de Janeiro's Copacabana beach for a world Catholic youth festival.

    Festival organisers estimated it attracted more than three million people.

    His remarks on gαy people are being seen as much more conciliatory than his predecessor's position on the issue.

    Pope Benedict XVI signed a docuмent in 2005 that said men with deep-rooted ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ tendencies should not be priests.

    Pope Francis said gαy clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten.
    gαy 'lobbying'

    "The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains this very well," Pope Francis said in a wide-ranging 80-minute long interview with Vatican journalists.

    "It says they should not be marginalised because of this but that they must be integrated into society."


    But he condemned what he described as lobbying by gαy people.

    "The problem is not having this orientation," he said. "We must be brothers. The problem is lobbying by this orientation, or lobbies of greedy people, political lobbies, Masonic lobbies, so many lobbies. This is the worse problem."

    On the role of women in the Church, he said: "We cannot limit the role of women in the Church to altar girls or the president of a charity, there must be more.

    "But with regards to the ordination of women, the Church has spoken and says no... That door is closed."

    Answering questions about the troubled Vatican bank, he said the institution must become "honest and transparent" and that he would listen to advice on whether it could be reformed or should be shut down altogether.

    "I don't know what will become of the bank. Some say it is better that is a bank, others that it should be a charitable fund and others say close it," he said.
    'Undisciplined'

    Before leaving Brazil, Pope Francis gave a highly unusual one-to-one interview to a Brazilian TV programme.

    The interview was shown on TV Globo's high-profile Sunday night docuмentary programme Fantastico, broadcast not long after the Pope departed for Rome.

    The Pope was asked about the moment on his visit when his driver took a wrong turn and his vehicle was surrounded by crowds.

    "I don't feel afraid," he answered. "I know that no-one dies before their time.

    "I don't want to see these people who have such a great heart from behind a glass box. The two security teams [from the Vatican and Brazil] worked very well. But I know that I am undisciplined in that respect."

    Asked about the recent protests by young people on the streets of Brazil, the Pope said: "The young person is essentially a non-conformist, and this is very beautiful.

    "It is necessary to listen to young people, give them places to express themselves and to be careful that they aren't manipulated."

    Asked about his simple lifestyle and use of a small car, he said it wasn't a good example when a priest had the latest model of a car or a top brand.

    "At this moment I believe God is asking us for more simplicity," he added.

     :barf:


    Who am I to judge anyone who defends Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.  Who am I to judge a Freemason.
    May God bless you and keep you

    Offline Eudes

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    "Who am I to judge gαy people?"
    « Reply #36 on: July 30, 2013, 02:59:28 AM »
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  • Who am I to judge voodoo practitioners?

    At least they're not Pelagians or "restorationists"



    Picture was taken from here -->http://veritasliberavitvos.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/francisco-esta-feliz-en-su-carnaval/
    "The most evident mark of God's anger, and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world, is manifest when He permits His people to fall into the hands of a clergy who are more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of raveni

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    "Who am I to judge gαy people?"
    « Reply #37 on: July 30, 2013, 06:06:49 AM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
    :scratchchin:Think About It.
    Since when does a Catholic priest, much less the pope, declare he hasn't the right to judge sin- when Christ Himself gives to priests that power?  Also, since when does any Catholic, much less the pope, "search" for God when He has already proven Himself to be Jesus Christ?  Can Francis be telling us the truth?  That he really can't judge, and that he is "searching" for God?  If so, think what that means.
     :furtive:


    He doesn't judge sin because Rome condones sin.


    Rome excommunicated archbishop Lefebvre for disobedience.
    Rome at the same time was protecting pedophiles and rapists who broke vows of charity
    May God bless you and keep you


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    "Who am I to judge gαy people?"
    « Reply #38 on: July 30, 2013, 08:00:26 AM »
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  • Yet, to many here; he is still the Vicar of Christ.

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    « Reply #39 on: July 30, 2013, 10:38:38 AM »
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  • Quote from: MyrnaM
    Yet, to many here; he is still the Vicar of Christ.

     :scratchchin:   :scratchchin:   :scratchchin: :stare:


    I share your frustration.  It's tiring - dealing with novus ordites.  The good news is that the people who follow Francis are not our problem.  Let them follow falsehood.  Maybe some day the Holy Ghost will lead them to the Traditional Catholic Faith.