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    Photos, video: Cardinal Dolan makes first visit to NYC mosque, meets with Staten Island Muslim leaders

    Maura Grunlund/Staten Island Advance By Maura Grunlund/Staten Island Advance

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    on June 19, 2013 at 6:47 PM, updated June 20, 2013 at 6:33 AM



    STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the archbishop of New York, made his first visit to a mosque in New York City and it was the Albanian Islamic Cultural Center in Tompkinsville where he met with Muslim and other faith leaders.

    The cardinal spent more than two hours touring the mosque and the Miraj Islamic School and having lunch with about 40 clergy and laity.
    "I thank God that this day has arrived," the cardinal said. "I thank you for your welcome, I thank you for making me feel like a friend and a member of a family."

    The cardinal asked questions about the Muslim faith and emphasized throughout his visit how much the two religions and their members have in common.
    "You love God, we love God and he is the same God," the cardinal said of the Muslim and Roman Catholic faiths.

    Cardinal Dolan stressed that Catholics and Muslims have a mutual love of the United States and of the religious freedom that this country affords, especially the ability to meet with people of different beliefs that would not be possible in some other nations.

    "Your love of marriage and family, your love of children and babies, your love of freedom -- religious freedom particularly-- your defense of life, your desire for harmony and unity and your care for others, your care for God's creation and your care for those who are in need," the cardinal said, were Islamic values also shared by Catholics and areas where there could be mutual cooperation.
    He likened Muslims to earlier waves of Roman Catholic immigrants who some 150 years ago faced the same challenge of "how to become loyal, responsible, patriotic Americans without losing their faith."

    As those Catholic immigrants did, Muslims have learned the value of religious schools, he said. "Education without faith is missing something dramatic," the cardinal said.

    The cardinal's trip to the mosque was in response to an invitation by leaders of the center who visited the archbishop in Manhattan in January.

    "Thank God that we are a country that welcomes everybody and, as you mentioned, your eminence, only in America, and we want this example to be spread because we can do many more things when we eat together as brothers than when we stay against one another," said Imam Tahir Kukiqi of the Albanian Center.

    Imam Kukiqi praised attendee Sarah Sayeed of the Interfaith Center of New York for "working tirelessly with Muslim communities and Catholic communities, especially to bring them together."

    Imam Ghulam Rasul of the predominately Pakistani Masjid al-Noor in Concord led a prayer "to bring peace, harmony and understanding between the communities ... guide us so that we may be the souls of goodness, peace and harmony and understanding for the people of this country and for the community of this Island."

    The cardinal is following on a local level the example of Pope Francis who has begun efforts to deepen and strengthen the relationship between the Islamic and Christian communities in Italy and other parts of Europe, said Monsignor James Dorney, a co-vicar of Staten Island. His co-vicar, Monsignor Peter Finn, announced that Wednesday was the 37th anniversary of Cardinal Dolan's ordination.

    The Rev. Liam O'Doherty, pastor of Our Lady of Good Counsel R.C. Church in Tompkinsville, was instrumental in arranging the visit and brought along many members of his parish council. Leaders of the Albanian Center and Masjid al-Noor invited the cardinal to visit their mosques during the month of Ramadan.
    (This report has been updated with more detail, photos and a video.)


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    Photos, video: Cardinal Dolan makes first visit to NYC mosque
    « Reply #1 on: June 22, 2013, 09:54:22 AM »
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  • Cardinal Dolan: Church closings are possible in Staten Island (photos)

    http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/06/cardinal_dolan_church_closings.html

    Prior to presiding at a joyous Father's Day debt-burning ceremony at St. Ann's R.C. Church in Dongan Hills, Cardinal Timothy Dolan had some bad news for ailing parishes as he acknowledged that church closings are on the table as part of the Archdiocese of New York's, "Making All Things New," initiative.

    The cardinal's final decisions are expected to be implemented on Jan. 1, 2015. A letter from the cardinal that was read at weekend masses at parishes throughout Staten Island confirmed what was previously reported in the Advance, that the parishes of St. Joseph's and St. Mary's in Rosebank and Immaculate Conception in Stapleton will be headed by one pastor as a prelude to the parish restructuring program.

    While the three parishes will operate independently and no mention was made of shuttering any of them, the cardinal indicated that they will be working together to determine their future viability.

    The cardinal made it clear in his blog and last week's Catholic New York that he thinks there are too many parishes and that he wants to trim the $48 million that the archdiocese spends each year to operate its churches and schools. The archdiocese already has shuttered some parish schools -- including those at St. Joseph's, St. Mary's, and Immaculate Conception -- in its move to a regional education system.
       
    "We have too many parishes" the cardinal stated in Catholic New York. "We no longer need 385 parishes."
       
    He further explained the archdiocese's financial predicament, saying in Catholic New York: "We devote a lopsided amount of money to maintain parishes and buildings we no longer need. Simply put, we can no longer put out $48 million a year to keep on life support parishes, buildings and schools we no longer need."

    When asked by an Advance reporter if churches would be shuttered, the cardinal said that Making All Things New would look at a "whole menu of opportunities" including, but not limited to, "merging, consolidating and even, on rare occasions, closing" parishes. The most "dramatic shifts" he said will be in Manhattan, which has an excess of parishes for its population of Roman Catholics, and the Bronx.

    The cardinal stressed, though, that the initiative would look at all sorts of options such as churches sharing resources and staff with perhaps priests, deacons or youth ministers serving more than one parish.

    The archdiocese also will consider building churches in areas where congregations are growing and thriving, but that's unlikely on Staten Island, where there cardinal said there already are "enough parishes."

    Intensive Making All Things New meetings at parishes will begin in September and participants will look not only at facilities but at Roman Catholic demographic trends and sacramental records. If a parish has more funerals than baptisms, it may be time for a change, the cardinal said.

    In the letter read at the weekend masses, the cardinal verified what already was previously revealed in the Advance, that the Rev. Victor Buebendorf will be serving as pastor of St. Mary's, St. Joseph's and Immaculate Conception. The Rev. Peter Byrne, currently the pastor of Immaculate Conception, will be the new pastor at St. Elizabeth's R.C. Church in Manhattan, and Rev. Michael Martine, now pastor of St. Joseph's, will be replacing the Rev. Robert Aufieri as pastor at Holy Rosary R.C. Church.

    "I am pleased to announce that your three communities of faith ... Saint Mary's, Immaculate Conception and Saint Joseph's ... will be asked to work together to plan for the future in this part of the archdiocese and how best to provide for the pastoral care of our people," the cardinal said in his letter. "We need your input and ideas."

    Cardinal Dolan laid out details of his plan to priests and other religious at a session on June 6 at St. Joseph's Seminary and the co-vicars of Staten Island, Monsignors James Dorney and Peter Finn, are in a photo of the event printed in last week's Catholic New York.

    Making All Things New is headed by the Rev. John O'Hara, former pastor of St. Teresa's R.C. Church in Castleton Corners, who is director of the Strategic Pastoral Planning Office for the Archdiocese. He spoke at the gathering on June 6 along with John Reid and Maureen Gallagher of the Reid Group, which has assisted in Cardinal Dolan's former diocese, Milwaukee, Wis., and also the dioceses of Newark.

    Cardinal Dolan introduced Making All Things New to his flock of 2.6 million in a 2010 letter printed in Catholic New York. Parishes subsequently were visited, a survey was conducted and other preliminary work was done.

    On Sunday night, the cardinal officiated at a standing-room only mass and debt-burning celebration at St. Ann's. The parish under the leadership of the Rev. Joy Mampilly, retired more than $600,000 in debt in less than three years despite tough economic times and parishioners struggling with personal losses from Hurricane Sandy.
       


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    « Reply #2 on: June 22, 2013, 09:56:42 AM »
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  •   :really-mad2:   He praises Muslim schools while closing Catholic schools.   :facepalm:
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #3 on: June 22, 2013, 10:18:47 AM »
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  • CAF Posters Praise Story:

    http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?p=10897644#post10897644

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    Yes, activism in this mode is good, yes, welcoming strangers is good.

     
     
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    If every religious leader of every faith acted the way Cardinal Dolan does here, we would make greater strides in moving toward world peace and harmony.

     
     
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    I agree with His Eminence's efforts at ecuмenism.

     
     
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    Right on!


     
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    I don't know how anyone can reconcile this statement with Catholic theology.


    Time to trot out the sentence from the Lumen Gentium:

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    "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

    So if those involved in the Second Vatican Council were able to do it, and those involved in the Catechism of the Catholic Church were able to do it, and Cardinal Dolan is able to do it, it must not be that hard to reconcile that concept with Catholic theology.


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    Photos, video: Cardinal Dolan makes first visit to NYC mosque
    « Reply #4 on: June 22, 2013, 10:21:43 AM »
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     :really-mad2:   He praises Muslim schools while closing Catholic schools.   :facepalm:


             


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    « Reply #5 on: June 22, 2013, 10:28:19 AM »
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    It does not conflict with Catholic theology, which I am sure Cardinal Dolan is well-versed in. He said it is the same God, not that the Muslims were correct in everything they believe about God. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob had some incorrect beliefs about God. I am sure in heaven, we too will learn that much of what we think we know of God is mistaken. Yet, the core belief is all correct. God is still one. When dealing with a transcendent God, inaccuracy is unavoidable.

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    « Reply #6 on: June 22, 2013, 10:51:52 AM »
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  • Chuckles the "Cardinal" is a disgrace even by Conciliar Church standards - and that's quite an accomplishment.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #7 on: June 23, 2013, 12:07:41 PM »
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  • The picture in the OP is the most prayerful I have ever seen Dolan look.  Maybe it would be good for his soul if he became a Muslim.  It would certainly be good for ours.

    As I have said before, the man is a gladhanding fool.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #8 on: June 23, 2013, 12:08:58 PM »
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    Chuckles the "Cardinal" is a disgrace even by Conciliar Church standards - and that's quite an accomplishment.


    He has had years of practice.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #9 on: June 23, 2013, 12:14:43 PM »
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  • "pnewton" from CAF is mistaken. St. Thomas Aquinas says that Muslims don't worship the same God that Christians do.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #10 on: June 23, 2013, 12:51:56 PM »
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  • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    "pnewton" from CAF is mistaken. St. Thomas Aquinas says that Muslims don't worship the same God that Christians do.


    The Angelic Doctor wasn't present at VII; his opinion doesn't count in the eyes of Conciliarists.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine


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    « Reply #11 on: June 24, 2013, 01:55:52 PM »
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  • It's news like this that reaffirm my faith in the traditional movement. Dolan is truly a prince of the new church.
    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!