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« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2014, 08:12:49 PM »
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  • Call me whatever name you like, but I hope all this outpouring of love will be instrumental in the conversion of the perpetrator(s).
    What return shall I make to the Lord for all the things that He hath given unto me?

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    « Reply #61 on: June 13, 2014, 08:57:53 PM »
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  • It's looking more likely it wasn't a robbery but anger at religion:

    http://www.kctv5.com/story/25769308/phoenix-pd-look-for-man-seen-entering-priests-residence
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    « Reply #62 on: June 13, 2014, 09:00:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: Emerentiana
    The young priest's aunt is the editor of the 4 Marks Magazine.
    That's an interesting tidbit.
    thanks for letting me know
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    « Reply #63 on: June 13, 2014, 09:07:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: Geremia
    911 call audio has been released:

    http://www.azfamily.com/news/911-call-released-in-attack-on-Phoenix-priests-263103901.html


    Go to the linked site to hear the 911 audio.  Fr. Terra nearly spent his final moments attempting to help Fr. Walker, even trying to give him CPR when he was barely able to move, himself, having been severely beaten and having endured tremendous blunt force trauma.  As soon as the emergency workers arrived, Fr. Terra shut down, going into "survival mode."



    PHOENIX (AP) -- Police say the investigation into a deadly priest shooting at a Roman Catholic church in Phoenix has been stymied by a lack of usable surveillance video and a vague account of the attack by a second severely injured clergyman.

    Still, investigators have been able to recover forensic evidence from the dead priest's car and the crime scene that they are hopeful will lead them to a suspect. And they are going door to door in the neighborhood looking for witnesses who might have seen something.

    The investigation is playing out as parishioners are mourning the loss of the Rev. Kenneth Walker, 28, and praying for the recovery of the Rev. Joseph Terra, 56, who was so badly beaten in the Wednesday night attack in the rectory of their church that police were worried he wouldn't survive the night. He remained in critical but stable condition.

    Police said Terra told them the next day the suspect was a white male in his 40s, but they acknowledge it was a "limited description."

    "Unfortunately because of the severity of his injuries, he was only able to provide limited information about one particular suspect," Phoenix police Sgt. Steve Martos said.

    In a recording of the 911 call released by police Friday, Terra can be heard breathing heavily and pausing as the dispatcher asked him what happened.

    "We have been broke into ... an assault," Terra said.

    "Did he hit you on the head?" the dispatcher asked.

    "Yeah, I think he did," Terra replied. "My assistant priest here is ... uh ... has been beaten."

    "Is he breathing?" the dispatcher asked.

    "No, no he's not," Terra said as he is then instructed how to perform CPR.

    He was unable at the time to provide a description of who attacked him and fatally shot Walker.

    "You have no description at all?" the dispatcher asked.

    "No," Terra replied.

    Police and paramedics soon arrived on the scene, and Terra "pretty much just shut down then, went into survival mode," Martos said Friday.

    He said detectives weren't suspicious that Terra couldn't describe his attacker at the time, but later was able to provide a limited description.

    "That's not uncommon. You're talking about an individual who was just severely attacked," Martos said, adding that authorities didn't think he would survive. "Especially with the vicious assault that he had just endured."

    Martos said Terra was trying to save Walker's life until authorities arrived, even as he himself lay critically wounded.

    "He's doing everything he can because he's the only one there," Martos said.

    Detectives have collected surveillance video from buildings in the area, including government facilities near the state Capitol, but they found nothing usable at this point because the cameras weren't pointed at the church.

    Police are still unsure if there was only one suspect or whether robbery was the motive in the attack at the Mother of Mercy Mission, Martos said. He declined to say whether there was forced entry.

    Investigators have been able to rule out several theories, including speculation of a dispute between the priests.

    "There's nothing to indicate that this is priest on priest or Father Terra getting into some argument or discussion with Father Walker," Martos said. "We don't believe that. The evidence that we have come across does not point in that direction at all."

    Walker was born in upstate New York, had 10 siblings and was drawn to the priesthood after attending traditional Latin Mass with his family in high school. He later joined the seminary, made good grades and enjoyed playing soccer, said the Rev. Joseph Lee, academic dean at the Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary in Nebraska.

    Walker eventually joined a Catholic order that specializes in Latin Mass and became a priest in downtown Phoenix. He recently officiated a younger sibling's wedding in Kansas - the last time he saw many relatives.

    Family members said they were overcome with emotion by the loss, but they took solace in the fact that the surviving priest was able to administer last rites.

    "For Catholics, receiving your last rites basically guarantees you're going to heaven," said Walker's stepsister, Sasha Keys. "That's one of the biggest reasons we have to smile."

    In his application to the seminary, Walker spoke of his devotion to God and desire to be a priest.

    "The only vocation that I could be satisfied with, as a work," he wrote, "would be one that would be ... dedicated to bringing people to salvation in whatever way God wills for me to do so. This work is best carried out by the priesthood."
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    « Reply #64 on: June 13, 2014, 09:18:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: Geremia
    It's looking more likely it wasn't a robbery but anger at religion:

    http://www.kctv5.com/story/25769308/phoenix-pd-look-for-man-seen-entering-priests-residence




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    PHOENIX (CBS5) -

    The person who brutally attacked two Phoenix priests might have a lot of anger toward people and things associated with religion, a Phoenix Police Department spokesman said.

    Police also said they are looking for a man who was seen entering a residence attached to Mother of Mercy Mission Catholic Church, where one Phoenix priest was shot and killed and another badly beaten Wednesday night.

    The violent nature of the crimes - the Rev. Kenneth Walker was shot multiple times and the Rev. Joseph Terra was brutally beaten - leads police to believe the attacker is angry at churches, priests or religion in general, said Sgt. Darren Burch of the department's Silent Witness program.

    Burch said there was a lot of anger and venom involved in the attacks in the rectory of the church on Wednesday.

    "Somebody in our community knows about an individual in his 40s that has that type of anger, that type of violent nature, those tendencies and that's the perfect tip that we need," Burch said.

    Terra remains hospitalized in critical condition.  ...





    Fr. Terra gave every ounce of his strength to help Fr. Walker, who had been shot multiple times, even though Fr. Terra didn't know about the shooting (or at least he was too confused during the 911 call to be able to tell about it).  

    Fr. Terra later said he had given Fr. Walker the last rites before he called 911, so he must have been concerned that Fr. Walker's life was in danger.  I hope there's another priest around who can give Fr. Terra last rites!!


    Here's a church with the TLM where they had expected to have TWO priests to say Mass for Trinity Sunday, but now they don't have ANY.  


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    « Reply #65 on: June 13, 2014, 09:22:49 PM »
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  • The 911 call.  What they say about Father being a real man is true.  Last Rites and all.  Just total respect.

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    « Reply #66 on: June 13, 2014, 09:24:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: Emerentiana
    The young priest's aunt is the editor of the 4 Marks Magazine.


     :pray: :pray: :pray:

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    « Reply #67 on: June 13, 2014, 09:32:35 PM »
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    Fr. Terra is very fortunate to be alive.  Such a wonton murderer would have very possibly killed him to eliminate any chance of a surviving witness.  

    In 1998 there was a violent murder of a Catholic priest in Dane, Wisconsin on March 4th, and it didn't make the news --  no witnesses, and now, 16 years later, no suspects.  The motive was apparently motivated by an intention to silence the priest.  His name was Fr. Alfred Joseph Kunz.  I spoke to a lot of people at that time who didn't believe it could have happened because it had had no coverage in newspapers, even Catholic newspapers.  There was no obituary for Fr. Kunz in any newspaper of general circulation, nationwide.  Only one local paper honored his memory with one very short article.

    I really hope Fr. Walker's murder gets some front page coverage somewhere.

    This murder/assault reminds me of that one because it was late at night, and there is some curious silence about how the murderer gained access inside.  They're saying no signs of forced entry.  So it's like it had been planned in advance.  

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    « Reply #68 on: June 13, 2014, 09:36:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: wallflower
    I am glad to hear he received Last Rites. I was wondering about that. May he rest in peace.

    And Fr. Saenz, the diocesan trad priest, gave him the Apostolic Blessing at the hospital.
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    « Reply #69 on: June 13, 2014, 09:49:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    I hope there's another priest around who can give Fr. Terra last rites!!
    Yes, Fr. Saenz, a diocesan trad priest, gave the Apostolic Blessing to Fr. Walker plus the Last Rites to Fr. Terra in the hospital.
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    « Reply #70 on: June 13, 2014, 09:52:16 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    This murder/assault reminds me of that one because it was late at night, and there is some curious silence about how the murderer gained access inside.  They're saying no signs of forced entry.
    Yes
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    So it's like it had been planned in advance.
    The physical evidence certainly points to hatred of religion more so than robbery:

    • Fr. Walker was shot multiple times.
    • Fr. Terra wasn't just knocked out in the head but brutally beaten (which I assume means he was mutilated).

    Plus, I'm sure the forensics is good enough to distinguish, just based on the rectory alone, between a robber scavenging for things to steal and a violent attack.
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    « Reply #71 on: June 13, 2014, 09:59:31 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    "We have been broke into ... an assault," Terra said.
    More proof it was more than robbery.
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    « Reply #72 on: June 13, 2014, 10:05:59 PM »
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  • Quote from: Bl. Anna Maria Taigi (19th century)
    Religion shall be persecuted, and priests massacred. Churches shall be closed, but only for a short time. The Holy Father shall be obliged to leave Rome.
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    « Reply #73 on: June 13, 2014, 10:11:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    .

    Fr. Terra is very fortunate to be alive.  Such a wonton murderer would have very possibly killed him to eliminate any chance of a surviving witness.  

    In 1998 there was a violent murder of a Catholic priest in Dane, Wisconsin on March 4th, and it didn't make the news --  no witnesses, and now, 16 years later, no suspects.  The motive was apparently motivated by an intention to silence the priest.  His name was Fr. Alfred Joseph Kunz.  I spoke to a lot of people at that time who didn't believe it could have happened because it had had no coverage in newspapers, even Catholic newspapers.  There was no obituary for Fr. Kunz in any newspaper of general circulation, nationwide.  Only one local paper honored his memory with one very short article.

    I really hope Fr. Walker's murder gets some front page coverage somewhere.

    This murder/assault reminds me of that one because it was late at night, and there is some curious silence about how the murderer gained access inside.  They're saying no signs of forced entry.  So it's like it had been planned in advance.  

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    Oh it made the news here, but I live in Wisconsin, and it was before the internet really took off. They still have not solved that murder. They've suspected from the beginning that it was a Satanist. Fr. Kunz was a very good friend of Fr. Malachi Martin, and I had heard that Fr. Kunz had much information on the rampant fαɢɢօtry of "Cardinal Bernadine," and was just about to blow the lid on the whole racket, but was murdered before he got a chance to do it. Fr. Kunz was also an exorcist. RIP Fr. Kunz.

    http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/abbott/100303

    Read that.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #74 on: June 13, 2014, 10:24:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    Oh it made the news here, but I live in Wisconsin, and it was before the internet really took off. They still have not solved that murder. They've suspected from the beginning that it was a Satanist. Fr. Kunz was a very good friend of Fr. Malachi Martin, and I had heard that Fr. Kunz had much information on the rampant fαɢɢօtry of "Cardinal Bernadine," and was just about to blow the lid on the whole racket, but was murdered before he got a chance to do it. Fr. Kunz was also an exorcist. RIP Fr. Kunz.

    http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/abbott/100303

    Read that.
    Interesting, thanks

    I'm surprised Randy Engel doesn't have more on him in her The Rite of Sodomy. She does write:
    Quote from: Randy Engel, Rite of Sodomy, p. 993n121
    Rev. Alfred J. Kunz, a canon lawyer in Dane, Wis. Fr. Kunz, who was a good friend of Fr. Charles Fiore, was found brutally murdered, his throat slit, on March 4, 1998, in the hallway of St. Michael School in Dane. To date, his murder remains unsolved.
    Quote from: p. 951
    Father O’Connor had hired a canon lawyer [Fr. Kunz] to plead his dismissal from the Dominican Order in Rome, but to no avail. Additional appeals to the pope went nowhere.


    Also, the strongest homily I've ever heard on the subject of sodomy came from Fr. Terra.

    Fr. Walker and Fr. Terra invite the whole congregation to say a prayer begging God for mercy regarding Roe v. Wade and the "scourge of abortion" before they begin their sermons. They are very devoted, pro-life priests who trust in the power of prayer to shut down abortion clinics—and their prayers have! God bless them, and may Fr. Walker rest in peace. Amen.
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