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Predestination2 · « **on:** March 04, 2025, 07:18:53 PM »

some people including the dimonds (ignoring their wacky jpii antichrist theories (as if we just missed the antichirst)) have stated that bergoglio is petrus romanus, but he doesnt seem to fit the description of somebody who will pastrue his sheep. especially considering that he is a false pope, and he isnt even the seventh false pope he is the sixth false pope, so how could we explain the seven heads if he is the final antipope?

i suggest that he is In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit. This is backed by the fact that In the Lignum Vitae, the line forms a separate sentence and paragraph of its own. While often read as part of the "Peter the Roman" entry, other interpreters view it as a separate, incomplete sentence explicitly referring to one or more [false] popes between "the glory of the olive" and "Peter the Roman".

Angelus · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2025, 07:30:59 PM »

Quote from: Predestination2 on March 04, 2025, 07:18:53 PM

some people including the dimonds (ignoring their wacky jpii antichrist theories (as if we just missed the antichirst)) have stated that bergoglio is petrus romanus, but he doesnt seem to fit the description of somebody who will pastrue his sheep. especially considering that he is a false pope, and he isnt even the seventh false pope he is the sixth false pope, so how could we explain the seven heads if he is the final antipope?

i suggest that he is In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit. This is backed by the fact that In the Lignum Vitae, the line forms a separate sentence and paragraph of its own. While often read as part of the "Peter the Roman" entry, other interpreters view it as a separate, incomplete sentence explicitly referring to one or more [false] popes between "the glory of the olive" and "Peter the Roman".

Bergoglio doesn't fit because Petrus Romanus is a reference to the "Holy Pope" prophecy. Bergoglio is the Antichrist (not yet finally "revealed" according to description in 2 Thessalonians 2).

Petrus Romanus is the Holy Pope, who will probably be experienced through a supernatural manifestation. He will probably be a real man, now dead, who held the Petrine office at some point in the past. His given name will probably be Joseph. And he will probably be a Pope who was rejected by his own people and exiled for a number of years before his "return" as the Holy Pope.

Predestination2 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2025, 08:05:54 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on March 04, 2025, 07:30:59 PM

Bergoglio doesn't fit because Petrus Romanus is a reference to the "Holy Pope" prophecy. Bergoglio is the Antichrist (not yet finally "revealed" according to description in 2 Thessalonians 2).

Petrus Romanus is the Holy Pope, who will probably be experienced through a supernatural manifestation. He will probably be a real man, now dead, who held the Petrine office at some point in the past. His given name will probably be Joseph. And he will probably be a Pope who was rejected by his own people and exiled for a number of years before his "return" as the Holy Pope.

Objection - berg is the sixth head of the beast

Also why wouldn’t Petrus romanus be St Peter?

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2025, 09:58:08 PM »

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"the glory of the olive"

This is the last entry in St Malacy's prophecy and it pertains to the AGE of the Church. In other words, Benedict (of whom Francis is an extension of, being either a usurper of Benedict or simply an anti-pope altogether) is the last pope OF THE CURRENT AGE (i.e. 5th age of the Church).

St Malachy's prophecy started in the 1500s, which (according to Ven Holzhauser) was the beginning of the 5th age (i.e. the end of the high-Catholic Middle Ages, the start of the Renaissance, and the beginning of the rebellion against the Church, most notably with Martin Luther in 1517.)

I've read elsewhere that St Malachy's prophecy notably changes paragraphs/tone as it ends with the "Peter the Roman" line. In other words, "Peter the Roman" is a prophecy of the LAST POPE EVER, which is not related to the main list of popes, which are for a specific time period.

Back to Ven Holzhauser and his ages of the Church...the 5th age is a period of chaos, heresy and rebellion. The 6th age begins with the arrival of the Angelic Pope and Holy Monarch, who will usher in the 'Age of Mary' and Fatima's peace (however short).

Conclusion: St Malachy's prophecy was never meant as a list til the end of time, but only for a period of time, i.e. 5th age. Thus, his reference to "Peter the Roman" is meant as a reference to the very LAST pope (which other prophecies agree with, saying that the last pope vs antichrist will take Peter as his name). But there is no logical progression meant between 'glory of the olive' and 'peter the roman' as indicated by both the way it was written and also the change in paragraph/page of the manuscript, which meant to show a break of thought between ALL THE PRIOR POPES and the final one, i.e. Peter the Roman.

In reading St Malachy's prophecy in coordination with Ven Holzhauser (and many other prophecies), it is clear that Peter the Roman does NOT FOLLOW the 'glory of the olives'.

Angelus · « **Reply #4 on:** March 04, 2025, 10:00:02 PM »

Quote from: Predestination2 on March 04, 2025, 08:05:54 PM

Objection - berg is the sixth head of the beast

Also why wouldn’t Petrus romanus be St Peter?

Daniel Chapter 7 explains in more detail the Beast from the Sea (mentioned in Apocalypse 13):

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2 I saw in my vision by night, and behold the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea [the Holy See]. 3 And four great beasts, different one from another, came up out of the sea.

FIRST BEAST: 2 Heads (Pius XI [lioness] and Pius XII [man])
4 The first was like a lioness, and had the wings of an eagle: I beheld till her wings were plucked off, and she was lifted up from the earth, and stood upon her feet as a man, and the heart of a man was given to her.

SECOND BEAST: 1 Head (John XXIII [bear])
5 And behold another beast like a bear stood up on one side: and there were three rows in the mouth thereof, and in the teeth thereof, and thus they said to it: Arise, devour much flesh.

THIRD BEAST: 4 Heads (Paul VI, JPI, JPII, BXVI)
6 After this I beheld, and lo, another like a leopard, and it had upon it four wings as of a fowl, and the beast had four heads, and power was given to it.

FOURTH BEAST: 10 Horns (Cardinals Bergoglio and his C9)
7 After this I beheld in the vision of the night, and lo, a fourth beast, terrible and wonderful, and exceeding strong, it had great iron teeth, eating and breaking in pieces, and treading down the rest with its feet: and it was unlike to the other beasts which I had seen before it, and had ten horns. 8 I considered the horns, and behold another little horn sprung out of the midst of them: and three of the first horns were plucked up at the presence thereof: and behold eyes like the eyes of a man were in this horn, and a mouth speaking great things [Antichrist].

HOLY POPE
9 I beheld till thrones were placed, and the Ancient of days sat: his garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like clean wool: his throne like flames of fire: the wheels of it like a burning fire. 10 A swift stream of fire issued forth from before him: thousands of thousands ministered to him, and ten thousand times a hundred thousand stood before him: the judgment sat, and the books were opened.

As Daniel explains in Chapter 2, these Beasts are "Kingdoms" or "Regimes." Here is how he describes them:

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36 This is the dream: we will also tell the interpretation thereof before thee, O king.

FIRST REGIME: Gold (the lioness and the man)
37 Thou art a king of kings: and the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, and strength, and power, and glory: 38 And all places wherein the children of men, and the beasts of the field do dwell: he hath also given the birds of the air into thy hand, and hath put all things under thy power: thou therefore art the head of gold.

SECOND REGIME: Silver (the bear)
39 And after thee shall rise up another kingdom, inferior to thee, of silver:

THIRD REGIME: Brass (four heads of the leopard)
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall rule over all the world.

FOURTH REGIME: Iron (10 toes is 10 Cardinals sharing power)
40 And the fourth kingdom shall be as iron. As iron breaketh into pieces, and subdueth all things, so shall that break and destroy all these. 41 And whereas thou sawest the feet, and the toes, part of potter's clay, and part of iron: the kingdom shall be divided, but yet it shall take its origin from the iron, according as thou sawest the iron mixed with the miry clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43 And whereas thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay, they shall be mingled indeed together with the seed of man, but they shall not stick fast one to another, as iron cannot be mixed with clay.

HOLY POPE
44 But in the days of those kingdoms the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, and his kingdom shall not be delivered up to another people, and it shall break in pieces, and shall consume all these kingdoms, and itself shall stand for ever. 45 According as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and broke in pieces, the clay, and the iron, and the brass, and the silver, and the gold, the great God hath shewn the king what shall come to pass hereafter, and the dream is true, and the interpretation thereof is faithful.

And here is Daniel Chapter 4, explaining just the change from Pius XII to John XXIII. You will note that he says "Let the heart be changed from man's, and let the beast's heart be given to him; and let seven times pass over him." This is referring to Pius XII [the man] and John XXIII [the bear]. The "seven times" is 70 years from 1959 to 2029.

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7 This was the vision of my head in my bed: I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was exceeding great. 8 The tree was great, and strong: and the height thereof reached unto heaven: the sight thereof was even to the ends of all the earth. 9 Its leaves were most beautiful, and its fruit exceeding much: and in it was food for all: under it dwelt cattle, and beasts, and in the branches thereof the fowls of the air had their abode: and all flesh did eat of it. 10 I saw in the vision of my head upon my bed, and behold a watcher, and a holy one came down from heaven.

11 He cried aloud, and said thus: Cut down the tree, and chop off the branches thereof: shake off its leaves, and scatter its fruits: let the beasts fly away that are under it, and the birds from its branches. 12 Nevertheless leave the stump of its roots in the earth, and let it be tied with a band of iron, and of brass, among the grass, that is without, and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let its portion be with the wild beasts in the grass of the earth. 13 Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given him; and let seven times pass over him.

14 This is the decree by the sentence of the watchers, and the word and demand of the holy ones; till the living know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men; and he will give it to whomsoever it shall please him, and he will appoint the basest man over it.

So, as I mentioned in my earlier post, the "seven heads" start with the founding of the Vatican City State with the Lateran Treaty in 1929. Daniel describes Pius XI and Pius XII as "golden." They are like a "lioness" and a "man." The imagery is generally positive. It is with the following regimes where we see the more negative descriptions.

How do I know that Bergoglio arises during the period of the Ten Horns? Because he himself said that he was ruling with his Council of Cardinal Advisors (the C9) when he usurped the papacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Cardinals).

That was part of the deal. They would "elect" Bergoglio in a false conclave, if he allowed them to share power with him. He removed 3 of the original Cardinals in 2018 because they were blocking his "reforms." Daniel Chapter 7 mentions that "three of the first horns were plucked up at the presence thereof." Here is a news article about those three Cardinals getting canned:
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/40127/three-cardinals-dropped-from-c9-as-reform-process-nears-end

To your second question about St. Peter. It is possible that it could refer to St. Peter. But the description of the Holy Pope in private revelations does not fit St. Peter. The Holy Pope will, like Jesus before him, be previously rejected by his people. "The stone which the builders rejected; the same is become the head of the corner." The Holy Pope will play the role of Jesus Christ in the resurrection of the mystical body of Christ in the end times. As it was at the beginning of the era, so it will be at the end of the era.

Predestination2 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 04, 2025, 11:14:51 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on March 04, 2025, 10:00:02 PM

Daniel Chapter 7 explains in more detail the Beast from the Sea (mentioned in Apocalypse 13):

As Daniel explains in Chapter 2, these Beasts are "Kingdoms" or "Regimes." Here is how he describes them:

And here is Daniel Chapter 4, explaining just the change from Pius XII to John XXIII. You will note that he says "Let the heart be changed from man's, and let the beast's heart be given to him; and let seven times pass over him." This is referring to Pius XII [the man] and John XXIII [the bear]. The "seven times" is 70 years from 1959 to 2029.
So, as I mentioned in my earlier post, the "seven heads" start with the founding of the Vatican City State with the Lateran Treaty in 1929. Daniel describes Pius XI and Pius XII as "golden." They are like a "lioness" and a "man." The imagery is generally positive. It is with the following regimes where we see the more negative descriptions.

How do I know that Bergoglio arises during the period of the Ten Horns? Because he himself said that he was ruling with his Council of Cardinal Advisors (the C9) when he usurped the papacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Cardinals).

That was part of the deal. They would "elect" Bergoglio in a false conclave, if he allowed them to share power with him. He removed 3 of the original Cardinals in 2018 because they were blocking his "reforms." Daniel Chapter 7 mentions that "three of the first horns were plucked up at the presence thereof." Here is a news article about those three Cardinals getting canned:
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/40127/three-cardinals-dropped-from-c9-as-reform-process-nears-end

To your second question about St. Peter. It is possible that it could refer to St. Peter. But the description of the Holy Pope in private revelations does not fit St. Peter. The Holy Pope will, like Jesus before him, be previously rejected by his people. "The stone which the builders rejected; the same is become the head of the corner." The Holy Pope will play the role of Jesus Christ in the resurrection of the mystical body of Christ in the end times. As it was at the beginning of the era, so it will be at the end of the era.

Alright

What about the beast of the white of Babylon. Could pius xii and pius xi really be heads of the whore of Babylon?

there is no way roncalli montini Luciani wojtyla were popes either they are clearly false popes

how do you think berg will become antichrist? Will it be this year , is this hospital incident the injury spoken of in revelation? Will he use aliens (demons)? AI(demons)?

Predestination2 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 04, 2025, 11:19:05 PM »

Do you think that berg will reveal in 2028 or 2025?

Angelus · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2025, 08:25:26 AM »

Quote from: Predestination2 on March 04, 2025, 11:14:51 PM

Alright

What about the beast of the white of Babylon. Could pius xii and pius xi really be heads of the whore of Babylon?

there is no way roncalli montini Luciani wojtyla were popes either they are clearly false popes

how do you think berg will become antichrist? Will it be this year , is this hospital incident the injury spoken of in revelation? Will he use aliens (demons)? AI(demons)?

1. I'm not sure what you mean by "the beast of the white of Babylon." Do you mean the Beast from the Earth? If so, I think that symbol refers to the "ministry" of False Prophet and the false prophets under him in his hierarchy. It refers specifically to his teaching authority, which is shared by him as antipope with all the bishops and priests who subject themselves to him. The first beast, the Beast from the Sea, represents not those with teaching authority but those with governing authority in the Church. Both Beasts represent two sides of the same coin.

2. As I said, Pius XI and Pius XII are described in more positive terms than the later "heads" or "regimes." The imagery of the Beast is focused more on its final culmination in the Antichrist than its origins in the precursors. That is not to say that there were not already problems in the regimes of Pius XI and Pius XII. The main problem was the desire to be a player in the Freemasonic League of Nations/United Nations system that was being set up to replace the Holy Roman Empire. The Lateran Treaty was the Vatican compromise that allowed them to be an equal player on the world stage of geopolitics. It eventually gave them a seat at the table at the UN.

Why is that important? It all relates to Fatima. There was war in the world (WWI and WWII). What to do about it? Our Lady of Fatima said that the solution was the Consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart. Did Pius XI do that? No. Did Pius XII do that? Not as requested. Why? Because they had another plan for peace in the world. It was a human plan and it involved international diplomacy rather than prayers and consecrations. This misguided policy of Pius XI and Pius XII laid the groundwork for what came later.

3. Call Roncalli, Montini, Luciani, Wojtyla whatever you want. Yes, they played a role. But I think the Vatican diplomatic apparatus (the Secretary of State) was actually in control of the Vatican during this time. Freemasons and communist infiltrators mostly controlled it after Pius XII. Anyway, the Book of Daniel describes the "regimes" after Piux XII as being foreign in nature. Pius XI and Pius XII (Nabuchodonsor) were Babylonian. John XXIII (Baltasar) was a mixture of Babylonian and Medo-Persian. Paul VI (Darius) and JPI were Persian. JPII and BXVI were Greek. Bergoglio and C9 is Roman. Not literally, but allegorically. Rather, those cultures are meant to represent the different approaches to the world and religion as manifested by these different regimes. The Popes are only a part of the regimes. The Secretary of State was in control most of the time anyway because of the Vatican obsession with creating a human solution for "world peace."

4. I think the Antichrist will be revealed by a supernatural event. St. Paul describes it that way in 2 Thessalonians 2. I think it is part of the Warning described in private revelation and referenced in Apocalypse 14:8-11. But, as St. Paul says, the "mystery of iniquity already worketh" before he is revealed. Bergoglio "already worketh." So he is already acting as Antichrist BEFORE he is revealed, which I think means before the Warning. I think these events are imminent. I don't know exactly when.

Predestination2 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2025, 02:35:22 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on March 05, 2025, 08:25:26 AM

1. I'm not sure what you mean by "the beast of the white of Babylon." Do you mean the Beast from the Earth? If so, I think that symbol refers to the "ministry" of False Prophet and the false prophets under him in his hierarchy. It refers specifically to his teaching authority, which is shared by him as antipope with all the bishops and priests who subject themselves to him. The first beast, the Beast from the Sea, represents not those with teaching authority but those with governing authority in the Church. Both Beasts represent two sides of the same coin.

2. As I said, Pius XI and Pius XII are described in more positive terms than the later "heads" or "regimes." The imagery of the Beast is focused more on its final culmination in the Antichrist than its origins in the precursors. That is not to say that there were not already problems in the regimes of Pius XI and Pius XII. The main problem was the desire to be a player in the Freemasonic League of Nations/United Nations system that was being set up to replace the Holy Roman Empire. The Lateran Treaty was the Vatican compromise that allowed them to be an equal player on the world stage of geopolitics. It eventually gave them a seat at the table at the UN.

Why is that important? It all relates to Fatima. There was war in the world (WWI and WWII). What to do about it? Our Lady of Fatima said that the solution was the Consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart. Did Pius XI do that? No. Did Pius XII do that? Not as requested. Why? Because they had another plan for peace in the world. It was a human plan and it involved international diplomacy rather than prayers and consecrations. This misguided policy of Pius XI and Pius XII laid the groundwork for what came later.

3. Call Roncalli, Montini, Luciani, Wojtyla whatever you want. Yes, they played a role. But I think the Vatican diplomatic apparatus (the Secretary of State) was actually in control of the Vatican during this time. Freemasons and communist infiltrators mostly controlled it after Pius XII. Anyway, the Book of Daniel describes the "regimes" after Piux XII as being foreign in nature. Pius XI and Pius XII (Nabuchodonsor) were Babylonian. John XXIII (Baltasar) was a mixture of Babylonian and Medo-Persian. Paul VI (Darius) and JPI were Persian. JPII and BXVI were Greek. Bergoglio and C9 is Roman. Not literally, but allegorically. Rather, those cultures are meant to represent the different approaches to the world and religion as manifested by these different regimes. The Popes are only a part of the regimes. The Secretary of State was in control most of the time anyway because of the Vatican obsession with creating a human solution for "world peace."

4. I think the Antichrist will be revealed by a supernatural event. St. Paul describes it that way in 2 Thessalonians 2. I think it is part of the Warning described in private revelation and referenced in Apocalypse 14:8-11. But, as St. Paul says, the "mystery of iniquity already worketh" before he is revealed. Bergoglio "already worketh." So he is already acting as Antichrist BEFORE he is revealed, which I think means before the Warning. I think these events are imminent. I don't know exactly when.

Autocorrect! When I said the beast if the white of Babylon I meant the scarlet beast of the whore of Babylon

3 And he took me away in spirit into the desert. And I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was clothed round about with purple and scarlet, and gilt with gold, and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand, full of the abomination and filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written: A mystery; Babylon the great, the mother of the fornications, and the abominations of the earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And I wondered, when I had seen her, with great admiration. 7 And the angel said to me: Why dost thou wonder? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast which carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast, which thou sawest, was, and is not, and shall come up out of the bottomless pit, and go into destruction: and the inhabitants on the earth (whose names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world) shall wonder, seeing the beast that was, and is not. 9 And here is the understanding that hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, upon which the woman sitteth, and they are seven kings: 10 Five are fallen, one is, and the other is not yet come: and when he is come, he must remain a short time.

11 And the beast which was, and is not: the same also is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into destruction. 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest, are ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but shall receive power as kings one hour after the beast. 13 These have one design: and their strength and power they shall deliver to the beast. 14- These shall fight with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them, because he is Lord of lords, and King of kings, and they that are with him are called, and elect, and faithful - Apocalypse (Revelation) 17:3-14

Predestination2 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2025, 02:37:58 PM »

Quote from: Predestination2 on March 05, 2025, 02:35:22 PM

Autocorrect! When I said the beast if the white of Babylon I meant the scarlet beast of the whore of Babylon

3 And he took me away in spirit into the desert. And I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was clothed round about with purple and scarlet, and gilt with gold, and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand, full of the abomination and filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written: A mystery; Babylon the great, the mother of the fornications, and the abominations of the earth.
6 And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And I wondered, when I had seen her, with great admiration. 7 And the angel said to me: Why dost thou wonder? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast which carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast, which thou sawest, was, and is not, and shall come up out of the bottomless pit, and go into destruction: and the inhabitants on the earth (whose names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world) shall wonder, seeing the beast that was, and is not. 9 And here is the understanding that hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, upon which the woman sitteth, and they are seven kings: 10 Five are fallen, one is, and the other is not yet come: and when he is come, he must remain a short time.
11 And the beast which was, and is not: the same also is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into destruction. 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest, are ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but shall receive power as kings one hour after the beast. 13 These have one design: and their strength and power they shall deliver to the beast. 14- These shall fight with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them, because he is Lord of lords, and King of kings, and they that are with him are called, and elect, and faithful - Apocalypse (Revelation) 17:3-14

I think you have just dig yourself into more suggesting that Berg is Petrus romanus, and There won’t be a holy pope, I already picked up on this when I saw the part about the ancient of days and you said it was describing the holy pope, the ancient of days is a title reserved for God alone

Ladislaus · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2025, 03:14:20 PM »

Quote from: Predestination2 on March 04, 2025, 07:18:53 PM

some people including the dimonds (ignoring their wacky jpii antichrist theories (as if we just missed the antichirst)) have stated that bergoglio is petrus romanus, but he doesnt seem to fit the description of somebody who will pastrue his sheep. especially considering that he is a false pope, and he isnt even the seventh false pope he is the sixth false pope, so how could we explain the seven heads if he is the final antipope?

I don't think the Dimonds' theory is "wacky" at all, as JP2 does fit a lot of prophecy about AntiChrist very neatly. Just because our general / popular thining about what AC would be like doesn't fit a more subtle manifestation (where AntiChrist isn't ruling the world and having Catholics beheaded), i.e. where some of that could be more symbolic ... after all, isn't the Apocalypse very heavily symbolic already? ... doesn't make the theory wacky. I don't necessarily buy it myself, but I can't call it wacky.

So if I recall, the Dimonds' explanation for Jorge being Peter the Roman has to do with his emphasis on corporal works of mercy, i.e. "feeding" the sheep.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2025, 03:16:59 PM »

Quote from: Angelus on March 04, 2025, 07:30:59 PM

Petrus Romanus is the Holy Pope, who will probably be experienced through a supernatural manifestation. He will probably be a real man, now dead, who held the Petrine office at some point in the past. His given name will probably be Joseph. And he will probably be a Pope who was rejected by his own people and exiled for a number of years before his "return" as the Holy Pope.

So, what? ... you're saying that Siri is still alive? He'd be 119 years old.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2025, 03:18:17 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 04, 2025, 09:58:08 PM

Conclusion: St Malachy's prophecy was never meant as a list til the end of time, but only for a period of time, i.e. 5th age. Thus, his reference to "Peter the Roman" is meant as a reference to the very LAST pope (which other prophecies agree with, saying that the last pope vs antichrist will take Peter as his name). But there is no logical progression meant between 'glory of the olive' and 'peter the roman' as indicated by both the way it was written and also the change in paragraph/page of the manuscript, which meant to show a break of thought between ALL THE PRIOR POPES and the final one, i.e. Peter the Roman.

Interesting. Seems quite plausible the way you explain it.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2025, 03:23:57 PM »

Quote from: Predestination2 on March 04, 2025, 11:19:05 PM

Do you think that berg will reveal in 2028 or 2025?

I think that Jorge was already being revealed starting in 2013, per the Tomasuccio prophecy, where anyone with the Catholic faith left realized that this man is no Catholic.

I believe that Jorge will "hang on" until early 2029. At that point there will be a conclave, and that's the one where Anna Maria Taigi predicted that Sts. Peter and Paul will manifest themselves to select the next Pope, who will be the Holy Pope who will restore all.

But at that point, due to the Holy Pope being elected, perhaps on the same day, in order to prevent the consecration of Russia, the forces of evil, will kick off a Third World War by, say, assassinating Putin and causing Russia to invade Europe. St. Pius X foretold of Russian in Genoa, and this will coincide with revolution, where the Pope will flee Rome over the dead bodies of Cardinals (per another vision).

At some point, this Pope will rendezvous with and crown the Great Monarch, will perform and command the consecration of Russia (deposing any bishops who refuse to participate), at which point the tide will turn, Russia will be converted, and then in turn will help conver the rest of the world. So miraculous will the turning of the tide be that all will attribute it to the consecration of Russia and that will be the most signfiicant cause of their conversion.

Angelus · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2025, 04:29:16 PM »

Quote from: Predestination2 on March 05, 2025, 02:35:22 PM

Autocorrect! When I said the beast if the white of Babylon I meant the scarlet beast of the whore of Babylon

3 And he took me away in spirit into the desert. And I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was clothed round about with purple and scarlet, and gilt with gold, and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand, full of the abomination and filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written: A mystery; Babylon the great, the mother of the fornications, and the abominations of the earth.
6 And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And I wondered, when I had seen her, with great admiration. 7 And the angel said to me: Why dost thou wonder? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast which carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast, which thou sawest, was, and is not, and shall come up out of the bottomless pit, and go into destruction: and the inhabitants on the earth (whose names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world) shall wonder, seeing the beast that was, and is not. 9 And here is the understanding that hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, upon which the woman sitteth, and they are seven kings: 10 Five are fallen, one is, and the other is not yet come: and when he is come, he must remain a short time.
11 And the beast which was, and is not: the same also is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into destruction. 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest, are ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but shall receive power as kings one hour after the beast. 13 These have one design: and their strength and power they shall deliver to the beast. 14- These shall fight with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them, because he is Lord of lords, and King of kings, and they that are with him are called, and elect, and faithful - Apocalypse (Revelation) 17:3-14

The Beast that is ridden by the Harlot/Whore (Apocalypse 17) is the same as the Beast from the Sea (Apocalypse 13).

The final fake "king," called "the eighth," is the Antichrist. He is "the Beast...[that] shall come up out of the bottomless pit." This is Bergoglio.

He is "of the seven, and goeth to destruction (Apoc. 17:11)," meaning he has a similar office/role that the prior seven heads had. But "the eighth" is not canonically-elected. Still, he is the de facto (in the eyes of the world) a "king" of the Vatican City-State. The other seven heads are also "kings" of the Vatican City-State. But they were canonically-elected and, therefore, legitimate "kings."

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