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Paul VI-Vatican II obligatory, NO Mass replaces TLM
« on: August 18, 2021, 11:13:15 AM »
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  • Total contradiction to the narrative that many believe.


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    Re: Paul VI-Vatican II obligatory, NO Mass replaces TLM
    « Reply #1 on: August 18, 2021, 11:14:48 AM »
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    Re: Paul VI-Vatican II obligatory, NO Mass replaces TLM
    « Reply #2 on: August 18, 2021, 11:15:26 AM »
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    For this, unfortunately, is the logical consequence, when, that is, it is held as preferable to disobey with the pretext of preserving one’s faith intact, and of working in one’s way for the preservation of the Catholic Church, while at the same time refusing to give her effective obedience. And this is said openly! It is even affirmed that the Second Vatican Council is not binding; that the faith would also be in danger because of the reforms and post-conciliar directives, that one has the duty to disobey in order to preserve certain traditions. What traditions? Is it for this group [=Lefebvrists], not the Pope, not the College of Bishops, not the Ecuмenical Council, to decide which among the innumerable traditions must be considered as the norm of faith? As you see, Venerable Brothers, such an attitude sets itself up as a judge of that divine will which placed Peter and his lawful Successors at the head of the Church to confirm the brethren in the faith, and to feed the universal flock (cf. Lk 22:32; Jn 21:15 ff.), and which established him as the guarantor and custodian of the deposit of faith.
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    Re: Paul VI-Vatican II obligatory, NO Mass replaces TLM
    « Reply #3 on: August 18, 2021, 11:15:49 AM »
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  • And this is all the more serious, in particular, when division is introduced precisely where congregavit nos in unum Christi amor [the love of Christ has gathered us into one], in the Liturgy and the Eucharistic Sacrifice, by the refusing of obedience to the norms laid down in the liturgical sphere. It is in the name of Tradition that we ask all our sons and daughters, all the Catholic communities, to celebrate with dignity and fervor the renewed liturgy. The adoption of the new Ordo Missae [order of the Mass] is certainly not left to the free choice of priests or faithful. The instruction of 14 June 1971 has provided for, with the authorization of the Ordinary, the celebration of the Mass in the old form only by aged and infirm priests, who offer the divine Sacrifice sine popolo [without people attending]. The new Ordo was promulgated to take the place of the old, after mature deliberation, following upon the requests of the Second Vatican Council. In no different way did our holy Predecessor Pius V make obligatory the Missal reformed under his authority, following the Council of Tent.
    With the same supreme authority that comes from Christ Jesus, we call for the same obedience to all the other liturgical, disciplinary and pastoral reforms which have matured in these years in the implementation of the Council decrees. Any initiative which tries to obstruct them cannot claim the prerogative of rendering a service to the Church; in fact it causes the Church serious damage.
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    Re: Paul VI-Vatican II obligatory, NO Mass replaces TLM
    « Reply #4 on: August 18, 2021, 11:16:50 AM »
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    Re: Paul VI-Vatican II obligatory, NO Mass replaces TLM
    « Reply #5 on: August 18, 2021, 11:17:44 AM »
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  • Why should we take the word of anyone other than the man who promulgated it?


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    Re: Paul VI-Vatican II obligatory, NO Mass replaces TLM
    « Reply #6 on: August 18, 2021, 11:18:38 AM »
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    Yep. Saw it. This is devastating to the R&R position.
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