Author Topic: Paul VI the only anti-pope? (Read 13242 times)

Jamie · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2010, 07:19:45 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

Someone was elected when the white smoke appeared. Are you prepared to say that the smoke was released by mistake? If not what do U think happened?

As the conclave was closed I don't know what happened. All I know is that Siri wasn't elected. If he was - and was therefore the valid Pope, he was a bad one who did equally nothing to help the situation when it began to collapse the Church - he even begged Archbishop Lefebvre not to consecrate the Bishops.

In researching for the answer to your other question (about the source of Siri himself denying it) I have discovered that I am wrong on that point and I withdraw it and apologise. In reality, Cardinal Siri refused to speak about the conclave.

Trinity · « **Reply #6 on:** June 19, 2010, 07:29:02 PM »

Well, if the ensueing popes are valid, they are still leading everyone to heresy and hell.

roscoe · « **Reply #7 on:** June 19, 2010, 08:42:23 PM »

Quote from: Jamie

Quote from: roscoe
Someone was elected when the white smoke appeared. Are you prepared to say that the smoke was released by mistake? If not what do U think happened?

As the conclave was closed I don't know what happened. All I know is that Siri wasn't elected. If he was - and was therefore the valid Pope, he was a bad one who did equally nothing to help the situation when it began to collapse the Church - he even begged Archbishop Lefebvre not to consecrate the Bishops.

In researching for the answer to your other question (about the source of Siri himself denying it) I have discovered that I am wrong on that point and I withdraw it and apologise. In reality, Cardinal Siri refused to speak about the conclave.

So he did not deny that he was elected and he was not partial to SSPX. Mo is that both of these points make the Siri thesis even stronger.

Of course the conclave was closed-- they all have been since 1914. Then how do you know Gregory XVII was not elected?

Question not answered-- are you prepared to say the first white smoke was an accident. ?

Let us not forget also that Card Siri was the known favorite of Pius XII(XIII)

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2010, 08:49:02 PM »

Pope Formosus is considered by some to have been an anti-Pope. He and Paul VI would be the only ones that would qualify. There are lots of rumors about Paul VI, and which one is true is un-certain. One rumor even states Paul VI was a freemason. Regardless of which rumor is true, I can say that Paul VI may very well have been the worst Pope we've ever had.

roscoe · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2010, 08:49:35 PM »

It is entirely possible that Gregory XVII was not a good Pope but he isn't as bad as Leo X and Clement VII.

Mo is that Paul VI(6) is an actual anti-pope. How can Paul VI(6) and Formosus be the only anti-popes when the Church has formally declared approx 40 of them?