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Offline Ladislaus

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Patrick Coffin goes Bennyvacantist
« on: February 11, 2022, 11:55:09 AM »
He's made comments before on his EWTN radio show coming a hair's breadth away from saying Bergoglio isn't the pope.  I kept wondering why he wasn't kicked off the air.

We'll, he's come out now as a Bennyvacantist (BennysedepleneBergogliovacantist to be precise).

https://rumble.com/vume9o-seven-pieces-of-evidence-that-francis-is-an-antipope.html

Offline Matthew

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Re: Patrick Coffin goes Bennyvacantist
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2022, 11:59:52 AM »
He's made comments before on his EWTN radio show coming a hair's breadth away from saying Bergoglio isn't the pope.  I kept wondering why he wasn't kicked off the air.

We'll, he's come out now as a Bennyvacantist (BennysedepleneBergogliovacantist to be precise).

https://rumble.com/vume9o-seven-pieces-of-evidence-that-francis-is-an-antipope.html


Do Bennyvacantists truly think there was no Crisis in the Church during the reign of Pope Benedict? Why didn't they give up their Trad chapels and go back to their local parishes?

They probably did -- because they weren't really TRADS, didn't have any illicit chapels to begin with, and were only after the "Latin Mass" which Pope Benedict made much more available at their local parishes.

In short, Bennyvacantism is an INDULT phenomenon, and the logical result of the error of having any truck with the Conciliar Church, seeking permission for your birthright which is to attend the Tridentine Mass, nourish your Faith and/or save your soul.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Patrick Coffin goes Bennyvacantist
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2022, 12:06:37 PM »
Do Bennyvacantists truly think there was no Crisis in the Church during the reign of Pope Benedict?

That's the million-dollar question.  Cardinal Kasper famously said:
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“They are different personalities of course, different backgrounds ... One is European, the other comes from Latin America. [But] if you read exactly what they write, it’s the same line and substance.”

https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2018/10/kasper-sees-no-substantial-difference-between-benedict-and-francis

And if you actually read Ratzinger's theology, this is clearly the case.



Re: Patrick Coffin goes Bennyvacantist
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2022, 12:08:03 PM »
Leaving aside for the moment the incongruity of accepting the papacies from John XXIII - Benedict XVI, but not Francis, Coffin gives these 7 pieces of evidence for his position:

Evidence items:

1) The term “pope emeritus” has no precedent and is confusing
2) Pope Benedict XVI seems to have resigned only part of the papacy, the active ministerium, not the office or munus of the papacy
3) Pope Benedict’s longtime personal secretary Archbishop Georg Gänswein has made statements that appear to affirm Benedict's continued papal identity
4) Pope Benedict's correct form of address is still “Your Holiness”
5) There are at least three errors in the official Latin “declaratio” read by Pope Benedict on February 11th 2013
6) "Universal peaceful acceptance by the Church of Francis has never really occurred
7) The canonically illegal behavior of the St. Gallen Mafia cardinals in conspiring to vote in their man from Buenos Aires in 2013 invalidates the Conclave


I haven't had chance to listen to his 30 minute video, but I would be very interested in what he has to say on point #6 (as it is a point of contention between R&R and some sedes).

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Patrick Coffin goes Bennyvacantist
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2022, 12:11:06 PM »

6) "Universal peaceful acceptance by the Church of Francis has never really occurred

That's nonsense.  He argues that people found something "off" about him from the beginning.  :laugh1:

Then he argues that the notion hasn't been defined, with which I agree.