I thought Bob was a goner, but he's been coming around lately.  

I thought the same Caminus, but it seems that the JPII canonization is one of the factors in showing who's really Traditional, and who is just faking it (i.e. The Wanderer). He's taking a lot of heat from Neo-Catholics like Dave Armstrong for embracing "RadTradism."

And Gallicanism / veiled anti-hierarchicalism is a borderline heresy.

The very term "Papolatry" makes me grit my teeth.  Apparently anyone who believes the Pope has any importance beyond making ex cathedra statements once or twice a century is a "Papolater."  I'm not one to go around flinging fhe epithet "Protestant" at my fellow Catholics, but seriously, could any term reek more of Protestant disrespect for the Papacy?  I wonder if a lot of Americans are uncomfortable with the idea of a king of the Church and this explains their utter disdain for not only the false Popes, which is understandable, but for the papacy itself.  This is what apparently leads them to the solution so-called of ignoring the "Pope's" existence entirely except to complain half-heartedly when he does something particularly wretched.  They seem very comfortable with this state of affairs too, never mind that a billion people languish in the deadly, fetid conciliar structures, exposed to heresy... As long as they have their little enclaves.

I bet if Luther would see the title of this thread, he would say: "That's what I've been saying all along!"

"Papolatry" is a term to define those who defend, assent or ignore the grave sins and errors of the Pope.  Just as you claim your position does no harm to the Papacy be removing the last four Popes, neither does this term do injury to the doctrine of the Papacy, but merely discovers the defects of certain Catholics who hide behind false doctrine, or some lesser human motive, in order to avoid just criticism of the Pope.  Thus your criticism of the term is contradictory, self-refuting and plainly ignorant.  Here what true Catholics of old had to say about a bad Pope.  Are they protestants as well?  What a shallow insult.    

"To Theodore of Pharan, the heretic, anathema!  To Sergius, the heretic, anathema!  To Cyrus, the heretic, anathema!  To honorius, the heretic, anthema!"  Third Council of Constantinople, Session XVI, Acclamations of the Fathers.

"The holy and Ecuмenical Synod further says, this pious and orthodox Creed of the Divine grace would be sufficient for the full knowledge and confirmation of the orthodox faith.  But as the author of evil, who, in the beginning, availed himself of the aid of hte serpent, and by it brought the poison of death upon the human race, has not desisted, but in like manner now, having found suitable instruments for working out his will (we mean...Honorius who was Pope of the elder Rome), has actively employed them in raising up for the whole Church the stumbling blocks of one will and one operation in the two natures of Christ our true God."  Session XVIII

"We slew them with anathema, as lapsed concerning the faith and as sinners, in the morning outside the camp of the tabernacle of God...and their names are these...Honorius."  Letter of the Council to Pope St. Agatho

"The heresy of Apollinaris has been renewed by Theodore of Pharan and confirmed by Honorius, sometimes Pope of Old Rome, who also contradicted himself...As recognized the five earlier Ecuмenical Synods, so he (the Emperor) anathematized all heretics...especially the originator and patrons of the new heresy...also Pope Honorius, who was their adherent and patron in everything and confirmed the heresy."  Imperial Edict of Constantine

Stevus, I must say that your uncharitable posts towards sedes isn't necessary. Sedevacantists have a love for God, a love for the Church, and a love for Tradition. I don't agree with them on every subject obviously, but saying they're "traitors" with venom is a very extreme statement to make. They're traitors just because they don't like Benedict?

FWIW, stevie, Sungenis' take on Assisi and the Joint Declaration on Justification does not seem to harmonize too well with your own.