Author Topic: Padre pio praises John Paul 11 (Read 4542 times)

copticruiser · « **on:** September 25, 2011, 02:06:58 AM »

I just watched a padre pio movie. Some parts seemed a little off it was ok generally. I couldnt help but notice two things that really bother me.

#1 Padre Pio met a young priest who later he said would become pope (jp11) but in the movie he went on to comment that he would be a good pope??? Plus he prayed with him ALL NIGHT which is good but Im getting a mixed picture here?

#2 Days before he died it shows padre pio celebrating mass facing the people I was sure that Padre Pio requested from Rome to continue saying the old mass?
Something is amiss here????

I love Padre pio alot I just cant see a man that dealt with angels and demons yielding to modernizm???

Any answers greatly appreciated thanks , Annie O

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2011, 09:01:42 AM »

http://www.sspx.org/miscellaneous/padre_pio.htm

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #2 on:** September 25, 2011, 09:07:50 AM »

Padre Pio died in 1968, the New Mass didn't come out until 1969.

There were some transitory changes and experimentation before '69 such as ad orientam, etc.

Daegus · « **Reply #3 on:** September 25, 2011, 09:56:02 AM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Padre Pio died in 1968, the New Mass didn't come out until 1969.

There were some transitory changes and experimentation before '69 such as ad orientam, etc.

Don't you mean versus populam..?

Sedevacantist MelFan · « **Reply #4 on:** September 25, 2011, 01:12:05 PM »

I read that Padre Pio refused to hear the future john paul ii's confession.
I read that Karol Wojtyla had gone to Padre Pio for confession, but Padre Pio refused to hear the future john paul ii's confession.
I also read that john paul ii denied that Padre Pio had said john paul ii would one day be pope.
It is lies and propaganda.
Many lies have been told about Padre Pio.
More than once people have falsely tried to claim that Padre Pio supported their particular person or group or visionary or whatever.

Padre Pio died before the novus ordo was introduced. So Padre Pio never said the novus ordo.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #5 on:** September 25, 2011, 03:18:59 PM »

Quote from: Daegus

Quote from: stevusmagnus
Padre Pio died in 1968, the New Mass didn't come out until 1969.

There were some transitory changes and experimentation before '69 such as ad orientam, etc.

Don't you mean versus populam..?

Correct. Sorry.

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2011, 04:48:43 PM »

OP, those are lies about Padre Pio. As stated in prior posts, please kindly read the links from stevus.

Anna1959 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2011, 08:26:50 PM »

I was alive when the novus ordo was introduced, and although I was not Catholic yet, my mom's family was. I remember it was a major subject for discussion in our family.

The NOM was introduced in 1970, and made mandatory in I think 1974. However, from the end of V2 to 1970, some slight changes were being experimented with. Actually the changes began before V2, with the "dialogue mass", which encouraged the people to say the server's parts, similar to protestant services, and unlike traditional RC and traditional Eastern Orthodox liturgies.

Hence, Padre Pio might have been aware of the slight changes before the formal introduction of the NOM, but as for actually saying the NOM, no he didn't.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2011, 08:29:29 PM »

The NO was introduced in 1969 and was made mandatory in 1971.

Padre Pio knew the Church was being infiltrated. He said Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ had even reached the shoes of the Pope. It's obvious he would never have celebrated the Bogus Ordo.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #9 on:** September 26, 2011, 07:37:21 PM »

Just found this nugget...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/world/europe/25padre.html?%20em&ex=1209268800&en=84a71c80872b2247&ei=5087%0A

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Popes had various opinions of him, however, the harshest being John XXIII, who, a recent book contends, considered him a fraud and a womanizer. In 1960, the pope wrote of Padre Pio’s “immense deception.”

A Vatican doctor called him “an ignorant and self-mutilating psychopath who exploited people’s credulity.” Many suspected that his wounds were caused by carbolic acid, which, one recently unearthed docuмent contends, he once ordered from a pharmacist.

Santo Subito · « **Reply #10 on:** September 26, 2011, 07:39:48 PM »

How do you all deal with the fact that it was JPII who canonized him?

How can a nefarioous heretic and anti-pope canonize Padre Pio?

The sedes among you have to refuse to accept JPII's canonizations. Therefore you must reject the canonization of Padre Pio.

Gregory I · « **Reply #11 on:** September 26, 2011, 07:40:35 PM »

Padre Pio was the absolute Last of the Mohicans. His death marks the end of the era of Tradition.

Saints stand on their own merits Santo. While Sedes reject the official pronouncements of canonization, it is very simple to look at their lives realize they were obviously saintly people. The Pope doesn't MAKE saints, he recognizes them in an official capacity. But it is the PEOPLE who recognize them FIRST.

Santo Subito · « **Reply #12 on:** September 26, 2011, 07:52:44 PM »

So do you recognize the canonization of Padre Pio?

s2srea · « **Reply #13 on:** September 26, 2011, 08:07:41 PM »

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So do you recognize the canonization of Padre Pio?

Have you seen any person of his caliber since VII?

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #14 on:** September 26, 2011, 08:08:48 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

Quote from: Santo Subito
So do you recognize the canonization of Padre Pio?

Have you seen any person of his caliber since VII?

I would say JPII, Mother Theresa, and probably Pope Benedict and Archbishop Sheen.

Kidding. Though Archbishop Sheen was not too bad.