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Offline Kephapaulos

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Padre Pio John Paul II Story Claim
« on: Today at 03:41:06 PM »
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  • What do you think?

    Does anyone have the real sources on what really happened concerning Wojtyla and Padre Pio?

    It seems to me that John Paul II may have been hiding what was really said between, but it is hard to tell either way since he said nothing of what was said. 
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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    Re: Padre Pio John Paul II Story Claim
    « Reply #1 on: Today at 04:14:37 PM »
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  • In the video around the 4mm he says +Pio told him, "Your white cassock will be stained with blood."

    Maybe he was warning him...

    https://www.fromrome.info/2025/02/08/emanuela-orlandi-and-the-renunciation-of-pope-benedict-xvi/



    https://www.fromrome.info/2025/03/07/jeffrey-epstein-had-photo-of-his-meeting-with-pope-john-paul-ii/


    https://www.fromrome.info/2025/02/07/breaking-italian-senatel-investigation-concludes-john-paul-ii-involved-in-orlandi-disappearance/


    Or maybe, he was warning him about how he would become an antichrist and have "spiritual blood" on his hands...



    The video you posted continues, that he would tell his friends, "Padre Pio told me I am going to be Pope can you believe it?" I
    I guess that is the kind of rumor you would spread if you wanted to get elected eh? 
    But, coincidentally it doesn't mention that he shared that whole, "your cassock will be stained with blood" bit...




    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Padre Pio John Paul II Story Claim
    « Reply #2 on: Today at 04:37:10 PM »
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  • Or maybe none of it happened.  Around no figure in all of Catholic history have such a huge amount of apocryphal material arisen than around Padre Pio.  When I encounter, "Padre Pio said ...", especially where it relates to controversial subjects or people, I immediately think 99.5% chance that it's fake.  Now, if it's something of a spiritual nature, regarding prayer, suffering, Holy Communion, etc. ... i.e. subjects where someone would not have some reason or agenda for concocting it, that's a different ballgame.

    One of the most common stories was that when Wojtyla visited him, mostly to assist at his Mass and go to Confession, Padre Pio allegedly told him he would become pope.  Wojtyla's own personal secretary denied this.

    Yet another misconception people have about Padre Pio is that he must somehow be omniscient, knowing all things about all subjects.  Whenever Padre Pio knew about something he had know natural way of knowing about, obviously it was because God revealed it to him (private revelation of course).  Dimond Brothers, in their booklet about his life, cite examples where Padre Pio was clearly wrong or mistaken about things.  Throughout most of his life, Padre Pio lived like any other person, using his own natural (and fallible) human judgment ... and wasn't walking around constantly in some prophetic haze.

    Regarding the bloody cassock and other alleged exchanges with Wojtyla:
    https://chatgpt.com/share/697698f5-9388-8008-ae6b-d33a3750f643

    Also, the mainstream accounts suggest that he spent a couple days there when he visited, not weeks or months.

    Combined with the whole apocryphal Padre Pio phenomenon, you also have the perfect storm of the modern phenomenon of people attempting to create ridiculous click-bait video in order to get views and make money.

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    Re: Padre Pio John Paul II Story Claim
    « Reply #3 on: Today at 04:48:18 PM »
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  • So, Wojtyla's secretary denied that it ever happened, but even HAD Wojtyla claimed that it happened, we know that Wojtyla liked left and right about the Third Secret as well as the Orlandi situatiion, among others.  If we can believe Father Amorth, he also liked about the contents of the Third Secret at Fulda.