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Author Topic: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!  (Read 10253 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2019, 07:26:38 PM »
From Barnhardt's site
Via the Messa in Latino blog, this picture was taken at 3:55pm Rome time (09:55am EDT) Saturday 26 October.


So they have people praying in front of this thing?  Or else keeping vigil lest they get stolen again?

Re: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2019, 07:51:09 PM »
WHAT!?? Would you repeat that?

Since when does cleaning out filth constitute theft? Besides these monstrosities did not belong in that Church.

Of course the valiant men who did this made the mistake to throw them in the river, rather than burning them and throwing the ashes in a sewer.
It’s still considered  “theft” according to the Commandments and Aquinas which needs to be Confessed.  As for Bergoglio, unrepentant sin against the First Commandment is a Mortal Sin and will lead to eternal damnation.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2019, 07:53:56 PM »
It’s still considered  “theft” according to the Commandments and Aquinas which needs to be Confessed.  As for Bergoglio, unrepentant sin against the First Commandment is a Mortal Sin and will lead to eternal damnation.

Wrong.  So, according to you, someone would have to confess stealing a scalpel from an abortion clinic?

Theft involves dispossessing someone of a good which they RIGHTFULLY possess.  So, for example, if someone stole my car, and I went and "stole" it back, that is not theft, because they did not rightfully possess the car.  They had no claim in justice to possession of the vehicle.  Similarly, one can have no claim to possessing something that is evil or bad.

Those idols have no right to exist, and no one has the right to possess them.  Possessing them is against the express will of God (the First Commandment), so no one has a right to possess them and no one can possess them in justice.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2019, 07:58:11 PM »
So they have people praying in front of this thing?  Or else keeping vigil lest they get stolen again?

And why exactly are people placing pictures of (presumably) loved ones, relatives, and friends all around the cursed thing?  Do they think it can intercede for them somehow?  There are also votive candles around it, with votive strongly implying that people are praying to the damned idol.

Re: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2019, 09:28:25 PM »
If Francis actually has that thing in St Peter's tomorrow during Mass as we suspect he's going to, I sincerely hope several brave Catholics will stand up and demand it's immediate removal in such a way as to make mainstream news. That photo, I suspect, will sting the sensus catholicus and raise righteous anger in many.