www.attorneygeneral.gov/reportKnew Tetherow first when he was with the Franciscans staying at St Gregory's Academy. Later was with Angelus Ferrara at Our Lady of Solitude monastery in northern PA. The Holy Ghost got me out of the latter situation, but not without at least financial damage, let alone psychological, then having to return home to Alberta and trying to start up a life again. :-[
Tetherow on page 872
SSJ Priests on page 877
Knew Tetherow first when he was with the Franciscans staying at St Gregory's Academy. Later was with Angelus Ferrara at Our Lady of Solitude monastery in northern PA. The Holy Ghost got me out of the latter situation, but not without at least financial damage, let alone psychological, then having to return home to Alberta and trying to start up a life again. :-[HEY! I am rather sure I met you there, a few years ago. I think it was the summer of 2010. I, another priest who was a friend of Angelus (not anymore!) and one of my young sons visited. It was a lovely day, although it was the only time I visited. Then the memory became eternally besmirched by what happened afterwards.
Did ethnic parishes in Pennsylvanian; that is, Slovak, Hungarian, Polish, etc. experience the similar level of priestly abuse(s)? I know many people who belonged to those parishes did not speak English, so it would have been difficult/ "embarrassing" for them to go to the appropriate authorities to file complaints. If that may be the case, then the list of the deviant priests is much, much longer? Just wondering.The report admits the investigation was not thorough.
HEY! I am rather sure I met you there, a few years ago. I think it was the summer of 2010. I, another priest who was a friend of Angelus (not anymore!) and one of my young sons visited. It was a lovely day, although it was the only time I visited. Then the memory became eternally besmirched by what happened afterwards.I was gone before the end of 2007 so it probably was not me. It was an idyllic place but run by an incompetent cleric cuм abuser.And h brought another rotter in to the community (Tetherow). :-X
It is good to hear you still have the faith. This lifts my spirits somewhat, because I work in the media and I have been disgusted by this whole sad saga of satanic sacerdotal sodomy.
[size=+2]“Right now they [the Communist infiltrators] are in the highest places in the Church” where they are working to bring about CHANGE in order to weaken the Church’s effectiveness against Communism.[/size][size=+2]She also said that these CHANGES would be so drastic that:[/size]
[size=+2]“You will not recognize the Catholic Church.”[/size][size=+2]Mrs./Dr. Bella V. Dodd was very concerned about these things. Her position was that the fight against Communism must be done in the school and in the churches as found in her testimony on this subject:[/size]
[size=+2]“Mr. Clardy. Would you not agree that while this committee has a proper duty and function in exposing the machinations of the Communist Party and letting people see how it functions and what it will do to them, would you say that the real battle against communism has got to be carried on in two fronts, one in the school and the other in the churches?[/size][size=+2]Unfortunately, at this same time, the Communists were getting more extensive control in the Roman Catholic Church so that nothing of any real significance was ever done in the West since that time by the Roman Catholic Church in the battle against Communism.[/size]
[size=+2]Dr. Dodd. That is right. Those two are very important” (Dr. Dodd’s Testimony on Monday, November 16, 1953, to the United States House of Representatives, Subcommittee of the Committee on Un- American Activities, Philadelphia, Pa., Public hearing; answer to the question of Mr. Clardy).[/size]
[size=+2]“I listened to that woman for four hours and she had my hair standing on end. Everything she said has been fulfilled to the letter. You would think she was the world's greatest prophet, but she was no prophet. She was merely exposing the step-by-step battle plan of Communist subversion of the Catholic Church.”[/size]
[size=+2]“She explained that of all the world's religions, the Catholic Church was the only one feared by the Communists, for it was its only effective opponent. Back then [early 1950's], she said: “Right now they are in the highest places in the Church.”[/size]
[size=+2]“They are working to bring about change in order that the Catholic Church would not be effective against Communism . . . that these changes would be so drastic that “you will not recognize the Catholic Church.”[/size]
[size=+2]“The whole idea was to destroy, not the institution of the Church, but rather the Faith of the people, and even use the institution of the Church, if possible, to destroy the Faith through the promotion of a pseudo-religion — something that resembled Catholicism but was not the real thing.”[/size]
[size=+2]“This would be necessary in order to shame Church leaders into an “openness to the world”, and to a more flexible attitude toward all religions and philosophies. The Communists would then exploit this openness in order to undermine the Church.”[/size]
Did ethnic parishes in Pennsylvanian; that is, Slovak, Hungarian, Polish, etc. experience the similar level of priestly abuse(s)? I know many people who belonged to those parishes did not speak English, so it would have been difficult/ "embarrassing" for them to go to the appropriate authorities to file complaints. If that may be the case, then the list of the deviant priests is much, much longer? Just wondering.I sometimes attend Latin traditional Mass at an ethnic parish, although not in Pennsylvania. I believe the problem exists there, too, but not to the same extent. The one case I know of personally was a priest who was found to be having an affair with a married woman in the parish. I'm not sure where he is, but know he was removed from active ministry and from the parish.
I firmly believe this is a crap explanation and am going to denounce it whenever I hear it. This sort of thinking will only harm us in the long run. It is OBVIOUS that this problem is older and was not caused by Vatican II 9as evil as it was) or . . . . Russians.How do you see the facts regarding Bella Dodd and other Communist infiltrators as "magical thinking"?
This was already going on regularly by the time World War II broke out and it grew worse because of
1) a decrease in the availability of quality candidates for the priesthood because of modernity -- thus the small number of misfits that will slip into any organizations, became a larger and larger percent of the pie.
2) Too much reliance on psychology -- just send Father Fruitypants to some clinic so he can get his nerves in order and he will be good as new.
These things were already in play before Vatican II and were not caused by communists. Quit the magical thinking.
The answer is intolerance for sɛҳuąƖ immorality.
Many parents are partially to blame. To allow young women or little girls alone with any man shouldn't be. Shame on the parents who ignored their own children when they were told that the priest was up to no good.That is correct and it still is happening today. I estimate that 25% of the clergy is ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.
Fr James McLucas was listed under the hαɾɾιsburg Diocese although I know he is from NY. He was the editor of Latin Mass magazine in the '90's. It tells about his abusive misdeeds re: a 14 y/o female and a subsequent long term "relationship" but there are no charges of any kind listed .Are they printing accusations as well as convictions? Can anyone just say anything without anything conclusive?
I always held him in high regard. He wrote a moving piece that is still online called"The Emasculation of the Priesthood".
All in all, horribly disappointing.
Father James McLucas respectfully requests that interested persons read and consider this
response before forming any final conclusions about the shocking and horrible accusations that
have been leveled against him in the report issued by the 40th Statewide Investigating. Grand
Jury. These allegations must have been based upon half-truths, false assumptions, and/or
innuendo and are categorically false. Any individual that provided information that could have
led to such conclusions by the Grand Jury was misinformed, sought to mislead the Grand Jury, or
was mistaken. It is unknown what evidence was presented to the Grand Jury; what is known,
however, is that Father McLucas was never asked to testify or given an opportunity to present
evidence on his own behalf.
While Father McLucas was not charged with any crime, the shocking and horrible
accusations in the report - without published evidence, without trial, and without due process of
law - will nevertheless blacken his reputation and destroy him in his profession. In this regard,
the report so offends traditional notions of fairness that Father McLucas is compelled to publicly
make this response denying each and every allegation in the strongest possible terms.
Father McLucas' reply through his attorney appended to the Grand Jury Report
How AG Shapiro and crew can spew out such undocuмented venom is beyond belief -just hoping it will stick? How evil is that?Yes, it's disgusting, just like the MSM is disgusting. Did he really have to mention all the details?
Brennus: answer is "Jews". Bolshevik communism = Majority in russia is the Jews who are in gov't control. They hide in secret societies. Jews had Christ murdered by Romans and to this day the problem is still the conversion of Jews.And PA AG's Josh Shapiro was raised a Jew, too.
How AG Shapiro and crew can spew out such undocuмented venom is beyond belief -just hoping it will stick? How evil is that?
We have delayed in applying these actions and sanctions that are so necessaryJust like Pennsylvania delayed decades before deciding to formulate this report, and now half the suspects are dead (https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/grand-jury-report-priests'-birth-ordination-and-death-years-distributions/).
I rather like this response. If only...This would be a nice start, but the quote is apparently not really from St. Basil.
“Any cleric or monk who seduces young men or boys, or who is apprehended in kissing or in any shameful situation, shall be publicly flogged and shall lose his clerical tonsure. Thus shorn, he shall be disgraced by spitting in his face, bound in iron chains, wasted by six months of close confinement, and for three days each week put on barley bread given him toward evening.
“Following this period, he shall spend a further six months living in a small segregated courtyard in custody of a spiritual elder, kept busy with manual labor and prayer, subjected to vigils and prayers, forced to walk at all times in the company of two spiritual brothers, never again allowed to associate with young men.” -- Saint Basil the Great
The most important point to know is that a "grand jury report" is not really written by any jury members.Yes, it should be called Shapiro's Report
If the Church was Catholic, then the Jews would have nothing on the Church.The Church is Catholic: "one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic Church"
We all know it's true. These people should have been locked up a long time ago but the Catholic Church condoned it. Thumb down me all you want. There are threads here that support the findings of the Grand jury you lukewarm Catholics. I guess Scranton was all lies and a myth. What is wrong with you people? If the Church was Catholic, then the Jews would have nothing on the Church. The Church is destroying itself. Stop blaming the Jews when it is lukewarm Catholics that is the problem. Once lukewarm Catholics changed the Mass which allowed the smoke of Satan into the Church.Unpacking a Shapiro whopper
The Catholic Church put itself in this position.
There have been tons of parents who back up the pedophiles priests instead of their own children.
"Priests were raping little boys and girls and the men of God who were responsible for them not only did nothing: they hid it all."There is no other way to put it except to say that this is a flat-out lie by Shapiro. Even a cursory look at the report debunks this absurd claim.
Unpacking a Shapiro whopper
Countless news stories have faithfully regurgitated one berserk line in particular from the report, a line which Shapiro clearly tailored for the media to seize upon:There is no other way to put it except to say that this is a flat-out lie by Shapiro. Even a cursory look at the report debunks this absurd claim.
Take the case in the report of Rev. Joseph Mueller: In 1986, a man went to the Diocese of Pittsburgh to claim that Mueller abused him years earlier as a teenager. Then-Bishop Donald Wuerl immediately removed him from ministry and shipped him off to St. Luke's treatment facility. Based on its evaluation of the guy, St. Luke's advised that Mueller "not work with children or adolescents." A diocesan memo also declared Mueller "unassignable." So what did Wuerl do? He stripped Mueller of his faculties, and the dude never worked as a priest again. Sayonara.
That, dear readers, is not "doing nothing," as Shapiro claims, and he knows it.
In fact, if one takes the time to actually read the report, one will see that the first action by a diocese, even many decades ago, was almost always to immediately remove the accused priest from his assignment. In a bunch of cases, priestly faculties were stripped. Therapy was often provided to victims.
Josh Shapiro's claim that the Church showed "complete disdain" for victims is nothing but an ugly smear. "I met with every victim. Anyone that would come forward, I met with them and I'd have to say more than once shared a tear with them as they or their parents told the story," Cardinal Wuerl has told (https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/08/16/cardinal-wuerl-addresses-inaction-claims-grand-jury-report/).
http://www.themediareport.com/2018/08/18/rebuttal-grand-jury-report-pennsylvania/
Anyone here trying to blame the authors of the report as "just trying to destroy the Church" needs to have their heads examined.
Where's the public report about rabbis who abuse children? Where the one about Orthodox priests, Protestant ministers, and scout troop leaders? Statistics indicate that the incidence of such abuse is just as high in those other groups. Why is the Catholic Church being singled out? Get your head out of your ass, Smedley.The Church SHOULD be singled out!
The Church SHOULD be singled out!Sadly, it seems this is true, since the Church has greater responsibility than those outside. As the Church goes, so goes the rest of the world. Priests and bishops who used their spiritual authority to bully young men into perverse acts is an unspeakable evil. Who was the saint that said that when demons tempt men to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ sin, they leave immediately afterward because that sin is so abhorrent to their natures?
It has the highest responsibility for example.
Reporting on the truth of predator priests is NEVER hurting the Church, it's purifying it.
Hiding the predators HURTS the Church.
Sadly, it seems this is true, since the Church has greater responsibility than those outside. As the Church goes, so goes the rest of the world. Priests and bishops who used their spiritual authority to bully young men into perverse acts is an unspeakable evil. Who was the saint that said that when demons tempt men to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ sin, they leave immediately afterward because that sin is so abhorrent to their natures?
Sadly, it seems this is true, since the Church has greater responsibility than those outside. As the Church goes, so goes the rest of the world. Priests and bishops who used their spiritual authority to bully young men into perverse acts is an unspeakable evil. Who was the saint that said that when demons tempt men to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ sin, they leave immediately afterward because that sin is so abhorrent to their natures?That was St Catherine of Sienna.
If the police gave this priest a clean record on a background check that was not appropriate then it is the fault of the police.
There's another side to LaDonna Wuerl. You need to read this Poche:
http://www.donaldwuerl.com/
There is going to be a visitation (inspection) very soon. It is very likely that all if not some of the bishops will be resigning.
There's another side to LaDonna Wuerl. You need to read this Poche:
http://www.donaldwuerl.com/
"From the 1950's to the 1980's, these treatment-based interventions for sɛҳuąƖ criminals were not only enormously prevalent (http://www.themediareport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Applewhite-Ireland-Address-Bishops-2009.pdf) in the United States, but surveys of ordinary citizens showed that they were enormously popular …Yet in almost every media account, the media has failed to provide this important historical context that the Church was following the then-reigning advice of experts in the field to send accused priests to treatment.
"[T]he science of human sɛҳuąƖity and sɛҳuąƖ offending is extraordinarily young. Virtually all of the information we utilize today regarding the treatment and supervision of sɛҳuąƖ offenders has been discovered since 1985."
– Dr. Monica Applewhite, Ph.D.
"No one would hold a brain surgeon to today's standard of care for professional decisions he made in 1970. Yet the decisions made in 1970 by Catholic bishops, who routinely consulted with mental health professionals about sick priests, are being judged by today's standards. Today, the confidence of the mental health community about the likelihood of curing sɛҳuąƖ disorders is far less than it was in 1970."http://www.themediareport.com/2018/08/18/rebuttal-grand-jury-report-pennsylvania/
– L. Martin Nussbaum, "Changing the Rules" (http://www.americamagazine.org/content/article.cfm?article_id=4783) (America magazine, 2006)
Where's the public report about rabbis who abuse children? Where the one about Orthodox priests, Protestant ministers, and scout troop leaders? Statistics indicate that the incidence of such abuse is just as high in those other groups. Why is the Catholic Church being singled out?Isn't it shameful the true church doesn't do a little better at this than false religions and secular institutions?
"n 1991, Bishop Wuerl approved pedophile Pittsburgh priest Father [Ernest C.] Paone's assignment in the Diocese of Reno-Las Vegas. That priest continued to work there — without Pittsburgh telling them that they knew he was a pedophile — until the Boston scandal broke in 2002."
"Very recently, an allegation was made by a woman who claims that more than 30 years ago her brother was molested by Father Paone …
"Had I been aware of this allegation in Father Paone's past, I would not have supported his request for a priestly assignment in your diocese. Nor would I have written to you indicating that he was a priest in good standing."