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Offline poche

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Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2018, 08:55:00 AM »
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  • This is what happens when you are a follower of Christ. They will attack you. 

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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #31 on: August 20, 2018, 09:13:48 AM »
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  • What we all have to face is that there are so many priests in the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ network in the Church that are abusing each other and /or having "relationships' on the outside with "of age'  men- they are too smart to get caught and cover for each other. Their behaviors are not illegal, just an abomination to God that can apparently be tolerated by the NO. These are the "men" running the Church ( into the ground).

    The Consiliar Church needs to fumigate from the top down, but as Francis is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ sympathizer and tends to elevate these queers to the Episcopacy, its not looking good.

    We must pray to Our Lady of Fatima for the cleansing of the the Consiliar Church by means of the Reign of Her Immaculate Heart.


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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #32 on: August 20, 2018, 11:44:39 AM »
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  • How AG Shapiro and crew can spew out such undocuмented venom is beyond belief -just hoping it will stick?  How evil is that?
    Yes, it's disgusting, just like the MSM is disgusting. Did he really have to mention all the details?
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    PA AG's incompetence
    « Reply #33 on: August 20, 2018, 12:19:15 PM »
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  • Also, how incompetent is Pennsylvania that it took their AG decades before actually formulating this report, 50% the suspects of which are now dead?

    It seems this has nothing to do with justice but with the MSM getting bored of harping on Russia.
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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #34 on: August 20, 2018, 12:20:03 PM »
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  • Brennus:  answer is "Jews".  Bolshevik communism = Majority in russia is the Jews who are in gov't control.  They hide in secret societies.  Jews had Christ murdered by Romans and to this day the problem is still the conversion of Jews.
    And PA AG's Josh Shapiro was raised a Jew, too.
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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #35 on: August 20, 2018, 12:29:42 PM »
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  • How AG Shapiro and crew can spew out such undocuмented venom is beyond belief -just hoping it will stick?  How evil is that?

    Because they are Jews trying to harm the Church.

    Now any accuser is simply believed, so to destroy anyone they want to destroy, all they have to do is to pay someone to come forward and make an accusation, and the person is ruined.

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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #36 on: August 20, 2018, 12:51:20 PM »
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  • This statement from Francis is making me laugh and cry at the same time

    We have delayed in applying these actions and sanctions that are so necessary, yet I am confident that they will help to guarantee a greater culture of care in the present and future.
    قامت مريم، ترتيل وفاء جحا و سلام جحا

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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #37 on: August 20, 2018, 01:10:34 PM »
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  • We have delayed in applying these actions and sanctions that are so necessary
    Just like Pennsylvania delayed decades before deciding to formulate this report, and now half the suspects are dead.
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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #38 on: August 20, 2018, 03:48:35 PM »
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  • That's the point they can always say allegedly since they never report it
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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #39 on: August 20, 2018, 04:37:17 PM »
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  • I rather like this response. If only...

    “Any cleric or monk who seduces young men or boys, or who is apprehended in kissing or in any shameful situation, shall be publicly flogged and shall lose his clerical tonsure. Thus shorn, he shall be disgraced by spitting in his face, bound in iron chains, wasted by six months of close confinement, and for three days each week put on barley bread given him toward evening.

    “Following this period, he shall spend a further six months living in a small segregated courtyard in custody of a spiritual elder, kept busy with manual labor and prayer, subjected to vigils and prayers, forced to walk at all times in the company of two spiritual brothers, never again allowed to associate with young men.”  -- Saint Basil the Great
    This would be a nice start, but the quote is apparently not really from St. Basil.
    According to the source below, this genuine source of the quote is a rule for the monastery of Compludo by St. Fructuosus of Braga (d 665), which by a couple centuries later was misattributed to St. Basil, and eventually quoted by St. Peter Damien (d. 1172)  from one of these misattributed sources, probably the collection of laws by Burchard of Worms (d. 1025).
    https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2018/07/25/basil-the-greats-condemnation-of-sodomy-or-peter-damian-or-fructuosus/

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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #40 on: August 21, 2018, 02:12:08 AM »
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  • 1. The most important point to know is that a "grand jury report" is not really written by any jury members. As any lawyer will tell you, the report is actually written by government attorneys with a predetermined outcome. The folks in the "jury" are merely a formality, window dressing to make the matter legal. Jurors sit in a room eating hoagies and reading the newspaper while "listening" to the proceedings. There is no fact-checking, no cross-examinations, and no due process. Those cited in the report have almost no recourse to defend themselves. Accusations are assessed less on evidence and more on the desire for them to be true.
    When the time comes, a jury member simply slaps his signature on the finished attorneys' report to make everything official. Press conferences ensue, and hysteria follows. [Highly recommended: "If it's not a runaway, it's not a real grand jury" by Roger Roots.]
    In theory, a grand jury is supposed examine evidence to determine whether a crime took place and should be prosecuted. This was clearly not the intention of Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro. In an 800+-page screed, Shapiro's report (and yes, it's really Shapiro's report, not a "grand jury report") does not recommend a single criminal charge, because almost all of the accusations are many decades old. The fact that countless tax dollars and unlimited government resources were expended on this escapade – while giving far-more-recent abuse in public schools, the Boy Scouts, and other organizations a complete pass – should raise serious questions about Shapiro's true motives.
    2. Countless headlines have trumpeted that the report identified over 300 "predator priests." In truth, that is the number of those merely accused; and the listed men are not just priests but include lay people, deacons, and seminarians. Many, if not the majority, of the priests in the report are long dead and no longer around to defend themselves. This caper examined allegations dating back to the 1930s, some eight decades ago. (One of the priests named in the report was born in 1892, about the same time that light bulbs became popular.) Several men in the report vehemently deny the accusations against them, and some claims in the report are outright false. (Much more on this in Part II.) [HT: Catholic League.]


    http://www.themediareport.com/2018/08/18/rebuttal-grand-jury-report-pennsylvania/


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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #41 on: August 21, 2018, 04:11:46 AM »
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  • We all know it's true.  These people should have been locked up a long time ago but the Catholic Church condoned it.  Thumb down me all you want. There are threads here that support the findings of the Grand jury you lukewarm Catholics.  I guess Scranton was all lies and a myth.  What is wrong with you people?  If the Church was Catholic, then the Jews would have nothing on the Church.  The Church is destroying itself.  Stop blaming the Jews when it is lukewarm Catholics that is the problem.  Once lukewarm Catholics changed the Mass which allowed the smoke of Satan into the Church.  

    The Catholic Church put itself in this position.  

    There have been tons of parents who back up the pedophiles priests instead of  their own children.   
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #42 on: August 21, 2018, 04:39:53 AM »
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  • Same sex is law of the land thanks to "Catholic" Supreme Court Justice Kennedy.  Catholic schools and universities are the biggest supporters of perversity.  Then there is Weird Weurl who years ago persecuted a holy priest who denied communion to a bhudist lesbian activist.  Two terms of Obama, because of lukewarm Catholics.  Of course there is a crisis in the Church and still you lukewarm Catholics make excuses for perverts.  There is a priest shortage because many young adult men were sɛҳuąƖly harassed, molested or raped.   What happened in Scranton, Pa is not myth and most are alive.  It also proves that it isn't just the Vatican ll priests.     And then there is Idaho, sex abuse scandal.  
    It is an outrage that any resistance would not include resistance to mortal sin and scandal.   Moral theology is part of traditional Catholic teachings.  Jesus said " Go and sin no more". 
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #43 on: August 21, 2018, 04:43:14 AM »
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  • Same sex is law of the land thanks to "Catholic" Supreme Court Justice Kennedy.  Catholic schools and universities are the biggest supporters of perversity.  Then there is Weird Weurl who years ago persecuted a holy priest who denied communion to a bhudist lesbian activist.  Two terms of Obama, because of lukewarm Catholics.  Of course there is a crisis in the Church and still you lukewarm Catholics make excuses for perverts.  There is a priest shortage because many young adult men were sɛҳuąƖly harassed, molested or raped.   What happened in Scranton, Pa is not myth and most are alive.  It also proves that it isn't just the Vatican ll priests.     And then there is Idaho, sex abuse scandal.  
    It is an outrage that any resistance would not include resistance to mortal sin and scandal.   Moral theology is part of traditional Catholic teachings.  The biggest problem has been the last several Popes.  All words; no action.  
    Jesus said " Go and sin no more".
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: PA Grand Jury report priests list
    « Reply #44 on: August 21, 2018, 11:12:26 AM »
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  • The most important point to know is that a "grand jury report" is not really written by any jury members.
    Yes, it should be called Shapiro's Report
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