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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2024, 05:49:04 PM »
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  • The Catholic Church has abandoned us. But God is with us always. 
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    Offline TheRealMcCoy

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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #2 on: January 18, 2024, 07:08:34 PM »
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  • I read the article but I'm confused. Is he leaving the Catholic faith?  I don't really know him at all.

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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #3 on: January 18, 2024, 07:23:57 PM »
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  • from the link:

    But let me first clear up some confusion: I have not left the Catholic Church, nor have I stated my intention to do so. I merely said that I’m done being abused by the same Church I’ve spent my life fighting for. That I want to re-evaluate my beliefs with fresh eyes. I’m in the process of figuring out what that means for myself and my family. It could mean that we go Eastern Catholic, where there’s a lot more focus on mysticism than legalism, a lot less focus on the pope, and a lot of great people. It could mean that we go to a healthy TLM community where we can actually feel we belong. It could mean something else. I just know something needs to change, and I’m in the process of evaluating options.
    I also said I’m done with traditionalism as an ideology and culture; I did not say I reject the Church’s traditional liturgy, sacraments, etc. I have been arguing far too persuasively for far too long that much of the post-conciliar Church represents a diminution of worship and teaching to simply go back to the Novus Ordo Catholicism of my youth. I still think an authentic, integrated embrace of Traditional worship, etc., is the healthiest (and most inevitable) future available for Roman Catholicism. My complaint is with the negative, purity spiraling, snarky, judgmental, toxic kind of traditionalism that is so popular in some sectors, and seems to be making a comeback even among the younger generations who are drawn to tradition. But I’m also aware that many good people with far more balanced views are finding their way to tradition every day, and they are bringing a more positive ethos to the situation. I’ve had the good pleasure to meet a number of them.

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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #4 on: January 18, 2024, 07:37:54 PM »
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  • Thanks for providing this link.  After skimming over it, it doesn't sound like he's abandoned Catholicism in any way, shape, or form.  Good to know.  Just from what I'd heard, I thought he had abandoned the Faith.


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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #5 on: January 18, 2024, 08:24:30 PM »
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  • The article's from June 2021. He's spent the past year totally into UFOs. A quick check of his twitter feed of the last few days shows 99% secular content. When God is mentioned at all, it's in terms of agnostic, gnostic/pagan, universalist (David Bentley Hart!), and heavily skeptical ideas.

    Not looking like someone who still accepts Catholicism in any form, maybe not even sure about Christianity either. Still badly scarred by the Legionaries and holding it against not only the Faith but Our Lord too. Pray for him but do know who/what you're praying for.

    https://twitter.com/SteveSkojec/status/1747329183309857257
    https://twitter.com/SteveSkojec/status/1746757051408327004
    https://twitter.com/SteveSkojec/status/1746274612437209539
    https://twitter.com/SteveSkojec/status/1746208082395550121
    https://twitter.com/SteveSkojec/status/1744907425004818691
    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #6 on: January 18, 2024, 09:59:49 PM »
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  • Yeah, we had a lengthy thread about it when it was first posted, 2.5 years ago.  It's floating around CI somewhere.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #7 on: January 18, 2024, 10:04:19 PM »
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  • The article's from June 2021. He's spent the past year totally into UFOs. A quick check of his twitter feed of the last few days shows 99% secular content. When God is mentioned at all, it's in terms of agnostic, gnostic/pagan, universalist (David Bentley Hart!), and heavily skeptical ideas.

    Not looking like someone who still accepts Catholicism in any form, maybe not even sure about Christianity either. Still badly scarred by the Legionaries and holding it against not only the Faith but Our Lord too. Pray for him but do know who/what you're praying for.

    https://twitter.com/SteveSkojec/status/1747329183309857257
    https://twitter.com/SteveSkojec/status/1746757051408327004
    https://twitter.com/SteveSkojec/status/1746274612437209539
    https://twitter.com/SteveSkojec/status/1746208082395550121
    https://twitter.com/SteveSkojec/status/1744907425004818691

    Thanks for the update.  He really appears to have gone off the deep end.  Does he still (evidently hypocritically) still run OnePeterFive?

    I found his initial complaint to have been rather petty.  He got massively bent out of shape.  I do think the priest did not act charitably toward him, but he WAAAY overreacted to it.  Go find another priest.


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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #8 on: January 18, 2024, 10:06:50 PM »
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  • The Trads who gave him a bad taste in his mouth will have to answer to God for the part they played in Skojec's discouragement and apostasy.

    But for the most part, when he complains about Trads, he sounds like Tracy from Fisheaters. "Toxic Trads" and all that BS.

    No, it's not negative to fight against what is sinful and erroneous. It's not "purity spiraling" to seek to avoid sin. Even if that means standing out from The World around us.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #9 on: January 18, 2024, 10:14:14 PM »
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  • I looked at a few more of his posts, and he's in full-blown denial about everything, including where he appears to deny an eternal Hell, etc.  Very often when one abandons the faith, one of the first things they do is question Hell ... for obvious reason.

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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #10 on: January 18, 2024, 10:27:11 PM »
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  • The Trads who gave him a bad taste in his mouth will have to answer to God for the part they played in Skojec's discouragement and apostasy.

    If I recall correctly, was it not some FSSP priest who did not allow one of his children to receive First Communion because they stayed away from the classes and whatnot due to "COVID"?  Certainly the priest, in charity, should have just offered to quiz the child independently to determine if he/she was ready.  Of course, if you make the classes mandatory, but then make exceptions, are they mandatory?  That's probably what the priest was thinking, but he probably could have made an exception in this case due to the nonsensical COVID situation ... or just given him/her private instruction to make up for the missed classes.

    In any case, throwing the faith overboard for something that petty ... I find rather astounding.  Sure, I've heard of people leaving the faith due to things like being assaulted by a pedophile priest or whatnot, but some some administrative nonsense?  In fact, if I felt that my child was ready, properly catechized, had the right dispositions, etc. ... I'd just have him approach the Sacraments anyway.  There's no canonical requirement of any kind with regard to a specific preparation class for Holy Communion.  Or he could have sought out another priest, whether Eastern Rite or some other Traditional priest (no issues there, since most of them receive Holy Communion even before the age of reason, even at their Baptism).  But just because a priest made a bad/bureaucratic judgment call?

    He got very bitter after that, and it was only then when he started lashing out against "Trads", but I've seen the same kind of behavior for NO priests, and it was most likely that this FSSP priest was following some kind of diocesan policy anyway.  Most truly Traditional priests I've known would and have in fact provided individual instruction as needed.  In fact, my brother in law (husband of my wife's sister) wanted to convert and went to the Novus Ordo, who told him it would be a year or so of nonsensical classes (that would probably just undermine his faith) ... when the man had spent years getting to know the faith through his wife and was determined to become a Catholic.  So I advised that he go to an Eastern Rite priest (they were not on board with Traditional Catholicism), and this priest met with him several times, got his history, determined whether or not had had the proper dispositions, etc. and within a few weeks he received conditional Baptism and the Sacraments.  As a side note, he was the son of a Protestant preacher and did not convert at their marriage, but after a few years, his wife (my wife's sister) put a Green Scapular under his mattress, and within a few weeks of that he announced out of the blue that he had decided he wanted to become a Catholic. 


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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #11 on: January 18, 2024, 10:31:00 PM »
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  • Here's one of his posts from the past day:
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    I’m not saying you shouldn’t be punished.

    I’m saying eternal punishment can never be proportionate to those sins.sins.


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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #12 on: January 18, 2024, 10:31:09 PM »
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  • Thanks for the update.  He really appears to have gone off the deep end.  Does he still (evidently hypocritically) still run OnePeterFive?

    I found his initial complaint to have been rather petty.  He got massively bent out of shape.  I do think the priest did not act charitably toward him, but he WAAAY overreacted to it.  Go find another priest.
    The vibe I get is that they discriminated against him and his family because they are traditionalists.  If they were in an invalid marriage, presumably using contraception, slurping up Newchurch like a dog with a pan of roast beef gravy, they'd get anything they want.  That's just how it works.

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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #13 on: January 18, 2024, 10:34:21 PM »
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    Re: Our prayers are with him and his family
    « Reply #14 on: January 18, 2024, 10:37:05 PM »
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  • his wife (my wife's sister) put a Green Scapular under his mattress, and within a few weeks of that he announced out of the blue that he had decided he wanted to become a Catholic.

    My dear mother, 93, is gravely ill and probably won't live more than a few weeks or months.  A year or so ago, I hid a Green Scapular in our foyer (behind the crucifix) and have prayed for her reversion.  She received Extreme Unction a few weeks ago and has fully returned to the orthodoxy of the Faith.  Just last night she was reciting the Our Father and the 23rd Psalm, and has a picture of the Sacred Heart over the doorway in front of her sick bed.