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Author Topic: Original Photo of "the Meeting" between Paul VI and "Sister Lucy" found!  (Read 9059 times)

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Re: Original Photo of "the Meeting" between Paul VI and "Sister Lucy" found!
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2018, 09:15:26 AM »
Now here's a picture of Sister Lucy dated 1949, and this clearly looks like a young Sister Lucy 2.




 

Here's a link to a video showing this picture on the wall at her convent, at 1:10:  

http://videos.sapo.pt/K1NFc4fptg5NE5dkLT7k
Where did you get these photos?

Re: Original Photo of "the Meeting" between Paul VI and "Sister Lucy" found!
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2018, 11:59:35 AM »
I found the picture of the young Sister Lucy (around age 15) in an online version of Frere Michele's The Whole Truth About Fatima.  The picture from 1949 is on a number of foreign websites.  Several of them provide a link to what I believes was Sister Lucy's convent, which is where they found the picture. Unfortunately, the link no longer works, but they also include the video I linked to above, which shows the picture hanging on the wall at the convent.  Here's another picture of what appears to be Sister Lucy 2. This one is dated 1951, and was also supposedly posted on the convent website, in the link that no longer works.


Something else I've been noticing is that the chins may not be as different as I once thought.  I'm beginning to think the difference is due to the angle and the added weight.  In the picture below, you can see that Sister Lucy 1 has a long chin that protrudes at the bottom.   If you add 50 lbs, and take another picture with her head tilted slightly upward, the chin may well look like that of Sister Lucy 2.


The smiles are different, but compare the mouth of Sister Lucy 2 to that of the biological sister I posted yesterday.  They look the same.  That makes me wonder if there could be another explanation.   Notice how flat and short the teeth are in Sister Lucy 2.  It looks like they have been filed.  Also notice that the gums in both pictures above are larger on the right side (from our view), and extend further down the front right teeth.  If Sister Lucy I had her front teeth shaved, the teeth and gums might look very similar to those of Sister Lucy 2.  Could this also have something to do with the difference in the smile?  I don't know. 


Re: Original Photo of "the Meeting" between Paul VI and "Sister Lucy" found!
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2018, 01:43:38 PM »

Something else I've been noticing is that the chins may not be as different as I once thought.  I'm beginning to think the difference is due to the angle and the added weight.  In the picture below, you can see that Sister Lucy 1 has a long chin that protrudes at the bottom.   If you add 50 lbs, and take another picture with her head tilted slightly upward, the chin may well look like that of Sister Lucy 2.


The smiles are different, but compare the mouth of Sister Lucy 2 to that of the biological sister I posted yesterday.  They look the same.  That makes me wonder if there could be another explanation.   Notice how flat and short the teeth are in Sister Lucy 2.  It looks like they have been filed.  Also notice that the gums in both pictures above are larger on the right side (from our view), and extend further down the front right teeth.  If Sister Lucy I had her front teeth shaved, the teeth and gums might look very similar to those of Sister Lucy 2.  Could this also have something to do with the difference in the smile?  I don't know.
It is not just a matter of teeth being shaved.
Look at how the teeth in Lucy 1 are deformed and not coming in straight.
All her teeth most likely needed to be pulled and replaced with dentures to match the picture in Lucy 2.
Convents usually do not have the financial resources to spend on dental bills.

On the other hand, look at the busy eyebrows of Lucy 1 and the barely visible brows on Lucy 2.
This indicates that the two pictures are from two different nuns.
Busy eyebrows usually remain such even in older age.

Re: Original Photo of "the Meeting" between Paul VI and "Sister Lucy" found!
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2018, 02:13:36 PM »
It is not just a matter of teeth being shaved.
Look at how the teeth in Lucy 1 are deformed and not coming in straight.
All her teeth most likely needed to be pulled and replaced with dentures to match the picture in Lucy 2.
Convents usually do not have the financial resources to spend on dental bills.

On the other hand, look at the busy eyebrows of Lucy 1 and the barely visible brows on Lucy 2.
This indicates that the two pictures are from two different nuns.
Busy eyebrows usually remain such even in older age.
In my opinion, the second photo shows obvious dentures. Lucia's bad teeth were probably extracted and replaced with full dentures as she aged. It's not true that all convents couldn't afford dentures for nuns, many had them. And I think it's extremely likely that they would have popped for dentures for a high-profile nun like Sister Lucy. If the convent couldn't afford them, then I bet it wouldn't have been hard to find a generous devotee of Fatima to donate their cost. I see nothing wrong with that. Also, eyebrows often become paler and sparser as women age. Wild, bushy eyebrows are more common in older men than in women. ETA I also noticed the shiny spot on the gums in the second photo. I have noticed in people who wear dentures that there is a tendency towards reflective spots like that on the imitation gums that don't happen on natural gums.

Re: Original Photo of "the Meeting" between Paul VI and "Sister Lucy" found!
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2018, 07:26:51 PM »
Worse dang dentures I have ever seen.

Also why are the dentures essentially perfect in 1967 while they really suck in 2000?

Also the picture above in 1951 she is quite homely while she is much better looking in 1967? Makeup?