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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Emerentiana on August 01, 2011, 05:05:18 PM

Title: Ordination of Novus Ordo "Priests"
Post by: Emerentiana on August 01, 2011, 05:05:18 PM

I wanted all of you to see pictures of the recent CMRI ordinations.  In a recent thread, the discussion was about "conditional" ordinations of Novus Ordo presbyters.

This is a letter written in the recent issue of "Ad Sum", the official publication put out by Bishop Mark Pivarunas, CMRI on the subject.

Title: Ordination of Novus Ordo "Priests"
Post by: Raoul76 on August 04, 2011, 10:43:25 PM

Excellent.  I appreciate that Bp. Pivarunas took the time to reassure the flock as to the validity of Father Oswalt's Holy Orders.    

Title: Ordination of Novus Ordo "Priests"
Post by: Jim on August 04, 2011, 10:51:38 PM

If Fr. Oswalt were ordained in the new priestly rite by a bishop ordained pre-1968 (for example Bishop Fulton Sheen) would Bishop Pivarunas have insisted on a conditional or absolute ordination?

Title: Ordination of Novus Ordo "Priests"
Post by: Sigismund on August 06, 2011, 06:06:05 PM

I expect so.  I don't agree with the Bishop's basic premise, but given that premise, the actions and arguments that flow from are perfectly logical.

Title: Ordination of Novus Ordo "Priests"
Post by: Pyrrhos on August 06, 2011, 06:08:11 PM

Quote from: Jim

If Fr. Oswalt were ordained in the new priestly rite by a bishop ordained pre-1968 (for example Bishop Fulton Sheen) would Bishop Pivarunas have insisted on a conditional or absolute ordination?

He insisted on an absolute ordination, to which several people object.