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Offline Emerentiana

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Ordination of Novus Ordo "Priests"
« on: August 01, 2011, 05:05:18 PM »
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    • I wanted all of you to see pictures of the recent CMRI ordinations.  In a recent thread, the discussion was about "conditional" ordinations of Novus Ordo presbyters.

    This is a letter written in the recent issue of "Ad Sum", the official publication put out by Bishop Mark Pivarunas, CMRI on the subject.
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    Offline Raoul76

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    « Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 10:43:25 PM »
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    • Excellent.  I appreciate that Bp. Pivarunas took the time to reassure the flock as to the validity of Father Oswalt's Holy Orders.    
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    Ordination of Novus Ordo "Priests"
    « Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 10:51:38 PM »
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    • If Fr. Oswalt were ordained in the new priestly rite by a bishop ordained pre-1968 (for example Bishop Fulton Sheen) would Bishop Pivarunas have insisted on a conditional or absolute ordination?
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    « Reply #3 on: August 06, 2011, 06:06:05 PM »
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    • I expect so.  I don't agree with the Bishop's basic premise, but given that premise, the actions and arguments that flow from are perfectly logical.
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    Ordination of Novus Ordo "Priests"
    « Reply #4 on: August 06, 2011, 06:08:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jim
    If Fr. Oswalt were ordained in the new priestly rite by a bishop ordained pre-1968 (for example Bishop Fulton Sheen) would Bishop Pivarunas have insisted on a conditional or absolute ordination?


    He insisted on an absolute ordination, to which several people object.
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