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Opinions concerning a Roman Catholic website
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2012, 08:39:09 PM »
The website to which the original post of this thread links ought to be avoided as a proximate occasion of sins against the faith by the Catholics of the present day who endeavor to resist the modernist anti-Church and have difficulty dealing with the crisis assailing Holy Mother Church.

"Recusant" (a word that I kept seeing again and again on that website) is code for "home-aloner," and one of the various manifestations of the personality problems and theological errors of Mr. Matatics and those of similar mind.

The errors found on that website regarding supplied jurisdiction and how its absence from the Denzinger "demonstrates" that it is a "myth" are enough to dismiss the author(s) of the website as a rank amateur(s) who lack(s) formal training in academic research.

Citing republications offered by traditional Catholic booksellers in order to transmogrify the truths taught therein to fit one's skewed views, and re-vomiting the errors and copying-'n-pasting the garbage of such sites as those of Pete-'n-Mike Dimond, Traditio, etc., does not at all constitute serious research worthy of consideration, much less do the claims of such people amount to a theological opinion stricte dicitur.

It is also saddening to see how Our Lady is being used as propaganda for cultists who would have everyone subscribe to their "ecclesiological aseity."

Opinions concerning a Roman Catholic website
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 03:48:05 AM »
Quote from: Hobbledehoy


.......re-vomiting the errors and copying-'n-pasting the garbage of such sites as those of Pete-'n-Mike Dimond, ..... does not at all constitute serious research worthy of consideration,....


Besides their conspiracy theories and the fact that they are sedes,.. what specific material on the Dimond brothers' website, www.schismatic-home-aloner.com , do you disagree with concerning the Catholic Church's teachings? Please be specific.


Opinions concerning a Roman Catholic website
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 08:40:14 AM »
Quote from: Deliveringit
Besides their conspiracy theories and the fact that they are sedes,.. what specific material on the Dimond brothers' website, www.schismatic-home-aloner.com , do you disagree with concerning the Catholic Church's teachings? Please be specific.


Their conspiracy theories, when fallacious, are self-refuting: such as when they publicly announced that the world would end after the death of John Paul II. They wrote something to the effect that the ensuing conclave would never elect a successor in the modernist anti-Church because the world would be destroyed.

Of course, they deleted all that stuff immediately afterwards...  :shocked:

Not that they are sedevacantists, but it is their version of "sedevacantism" that is to be rejected as pernicious and obscene: it ultimately holds that some high school drop-outs who pretend to be Benedictine and those who agree to their theories are the only "true Catholics" in the world.

If they were just some crazed unschooled heretics with tin-foil habits, that would be problematic enough: but these kids are arrogating to themselves the role of being "representatives" of the anti-modernist Catholic resistance, condemning everyone and everything else, whilst making money.

Hmm, profiteering from the plight of Catholics: isn't that what the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic synagoga satanae does?

But you asked for something specific, so here is one example:

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/why_Mary_is_not_coredeemer.php

This basically betrays Pete-'n-Mike as false Catholics who interpret Denzinger and TAN Books (because I doubt they could read Latin and cite their own translations of the original sources) as a Protestant would twist the Sacred Scriptures to fit his heresies. They are bereft of any serious academic formation (let alone a theological formation) and just cite and accommodate those texts that suit their agendae.

It seems that the Dimonds have dared to attack this doctrine of Our Lady in order to placate the Protestants who seem to be the target of their marketing campaign.

All Catholics should eschew the Pete-n'-Mike racketeering fraud as something odious to God and His Holy Church.


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The doctrine of Our Lady as Co-Redemptress has been taught by the ordinary magisterium of Holy Church, having as its foundation the teaching of the Fathers regarding the Blessed Virgin Mary as the Second Eve: please consult the following thread: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/The-Blessed-Virgin-Mary-the-Second-Eve

It must be remembered that the role of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Mysteries of the Redemption and in the economy of salvation is absolutely singular and unique: the Divine Maternity to which she had been predestined from all eternity, and all its the concomitant and consequent glories and graces, made her a world unto herself.

The theologians of the 19th century warmly disputed the question pertinent to this discussion, so that in the theological manuals of Fr. Pohle and Fr. Scheeben, one may detect a certain suspicion on the doctrine of Our Lady as Co-Redemptress, found in the writings of Sts. Alphonsus and Louis-Marie, amongst others. This was mostly because these theologians were afraid that a sacerdotal character would be superimposed upon the Blessed Virgin Mary, who never received, nor was capable or receiving, the Sacrament of Holy Orders, as all other women are.

However, since the reign of Pope St. Pius X, who sanctioned the devotion to Our Lady as Co-Redemptress, and with the elucidation of eminent Mariologists following the definition of the dogmas of the Immaculate Conception and corporeal Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary and various key Encyclical Letters of the Sovereign Pontiffs and the introduction of new Offices in the Roman Missal and Breviary (e.g., the Immaculate Heart, the Queenship, &c.), the general consensus of the theologians regarding this matter has changed very much.

In his work The Mother of The Savior and Our Interior Life (Part II, chap. ii., art. 3; trans. Rev. Father Bernard J. Kelley; Dublin: Golden Eagle Books, Ltd., 1948), Rev. Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange expounds upon this matter most lucidly and elegantly, and represents the general consensus of both theologians and the faithful.






























Opinions concerning a Roman Catholic website
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2012, 09:34:59 AM »
This is Mike - I copied the Catholic Dogma of the Catholic God onto Immaculata-one.com.

The entire "sedevacantist" issue is a straw man to send you into Hell forever. Satan's vatican-2 heretic cult (which is diametrically OPPOSED to the Catholic Dogma of the Catholic Church) does not have the Office of the Papacy ... only the Catholic Church has the Papacy.

The St. Matthew 16:18 (Gates of Hell) scripture has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Office of the Papacy ... the meaning of this scripture was Dogmatically defined at the Second Council of Constantinople (553 A.D.) ... to mean that heresy will not prevail against the Dogma in the world. See Section 13.3 of Immaculata-one.com.

There are no Catholic sacraments outside of the Catholic Church, without Catholic jurisdiction. I list the Catholic Jurisdiction Dogma on Section 87 of the site ... this Dogma in combination with the Dogma on Automatic Excommunication for heresy define that God has allowed the Mass and Confession to be taken away. The Dogma on what we are supposed to do when confession is not available is outlined on Section 10.2 of the site.

There are no Catholic sacraments in the “lutheran” heresy
There are no Catholic sacraments in the “methodist” heresy
There are no Catholic sacraments in the “anglican” heresy

AND ...

There are no Catholic sacraments in the vatican-2 heresy.

The vatican-2 cult enforces the opposite, the opposite, and the opposite of the Catholic Dogma.

Since the vatican-2 heresy is diametrically opposed to the Catholic Dogma of the Catholic Church of the Catholic God ... this is why (surprise !!!) ... they don’t have Catholic Sacraments ... (even though they have Catholic signs outside their buildings).

TKGS - - -

It’s an ABSURD contention  (it couldn’t be more preposterous) to say that Satan’s vatican-2 heretic cult (founded on 8 December 1965) is the Catholic Church ...

Satan’s vatican-2 heretic cult has been SCREAMING for 47 years that heretics and un-baptized pagans may be getting to Heaven ... WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ?

Proof that YOUR vatican-2 devil cult is not the Catholic Church is on Section 12 of Immaculata-one.com.

Your other non-sensical contention ... “the Church is in a time of chastisement”. The Catholic Church does have “chastisements”, it cannot be damaged, it cannot have a “crisis”.  The Catholic Church (which you are not in) can only increase and decrease in numbers, period.

Please read through Section 107 of Immaculata-one.com ... at the time of Saint Athanasius when the Catholic Church lost 90 percent of it’s properties to the “arian” heresy.

Opinions concerning a Roman Catholic website
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2012, 10:11:53 AM »
This is Mike - I copied the Catholic Dogma onto Immaculata-one.com.

If any of you who are posting here want to ... leave Satan's vatican-2 heretic cult and enter the Catholic Church you must make a Formal Abjuration of heresy.

I provide the Abjuration on Section 19.1 of Immaculata-one.com ... where you will also see the Dogma that Abjuration is required after your automatic excommunication for physical participation in a heretic cult such as the vatican-2 cult.

I Abjured in November 2009 and entered the Catholic Church ... it takes about 45 minutes.

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Please make the Abjuration according to the steps on Section 2.1 of the site.

Those of you who were born after 1965 have to do a conditional re-baptism (see Section 7) ... as the Catholic Church always did conditional re-baptisms on those who were perhaps baptized in a heretic cult (such as vatican-2).