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The last sermon of Martin Luther
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 08:29:15 AM »
Quote from: OHCA
Quote from: Classiccom
http://johnkaminski.info/pages/articles/the_last_sermon_of_martin_luther.htm

The last sermon of Martin Luther

Condensed from his final book: ‘The Jews and Their Lies’

The famous religious reformer Martin Luther (1483-1546) nailed his famous Theses on the front door of the Church at Wittenburg as a reaction to what he would later learn was Jєωιѕн corruption inside the highest offices of the Catholic Church in Rome. His ideas inspired the Protestant Reformation and changed the course of Western Civilization.

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What follows is a truncated redaction of Martin Luther’s final book: The Jews and Their Lies. It is written by a writer who is neither Catholic nor Jew, but merely a seeker of truth in a world besieged and nearly destroyed by the dishonesty of those who seek to hurt, deceive and destroy others, especially true believers of any type. This redaction consists of selected but unchanged passages from this work, and as such, is more an edited condensation and reshuffling than an actual redaction.

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So is this what you think of Martin Luther?  A mere few hours after appropriately correcting me for using the term "reformation" instead of "revolt," you go and quote the father of the heresy that has resulted in the splintering and decimation of Christendom, and has resulted in so much ridicule of the Bride of Christ (that's the true Church, btw, before you start quoting the Da Vinci Code!), and anti-Catholic hatred of those who cling there to!  Can't you find any Catholic sources to support you points.  Why do insist on quoting Heretics and other anti-Catholic sources.  I suppose quoting Luther is doctinally the most troubling.  But most amusing has to go the travel guide you quoted in the but Classiccom thread in the Resistance forum.

Next time you attempt some "scholarly" reading, why not try sinking your teeth in some true Catholicism.  If you search all manner of Catholic sources and don't find any that say what you are looking for, stop and consider the reason!

I don't think you are scoring any points persistently attcking the Rosary, many many Popes, and quoting travel guides and heretics!

As difficult as you are to endure, I am praying for you.  I live in the anti-Catholic "Bible Belt," and the anti-Catholics here constantly attack the concepts of the Rosary and the Papacy, as you do.  Your rhetoric is nothing new to me--it's just something I never expected to encounter on a Traditional Catholic forum.  I am a little put-out by feeling compelled to confront your anti-Catholic ideas, rather than working toward restoring traditional Catholicism.  Do you see as a strong force who have a chance of accomplishing our goal?  Is that why you are so insistently quoting pure heretics and other anti-Catholic sources to disrupt us and spread seeds of doubt among Christ's Church?

Oh, and btw, still awaitng an unequivocal clear response in your OWN words regarding praying to Mary.


OHCA, I suggest that you don't pay Classicom enough attention to type long replies to him. He is clearly an anti-Catholic with similarly crazy views to other current or former members here (CM being a prime example, he was eventually banned) and we shouldn't take him seriously enough to waste our valuble time of the day typing long replies to him. All we can really do for him is pray for him. It's eventually going to get to a point where I don't think anyone will even reply to his posts. I'm pretty close to that point myself.

The last sermon of Martin Luther
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 09:04:59 AM »
SpiritusSanctus,

I am absolutely going to consider what you say.  My fear is that some poor soul will fall for what he says.  The heart of the main issue covered in this forum will naturally attracts some people who are quite desperate for answers.

Also, even not considering the desperation some may feel over our current circuмstances, some people are gullible and others are young and impressionable who may come across this anti-Catholic hogwash.  We have many members, and probably many other browsers/lurkers.  I think his rhetoric is dangerous to souls.

This is a particularly confusing time and I would hate to see some young person searching the net for information about the Latin Mass to stumble across one of Classiccom's posts.  And worse still, if such a young person a week later encountered an anti-Catholic Chick tract, the young person would likely think, "This is even what that traditional Catholic gentleman was saying."


The last sermon of Martin Luther
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 02:18:57 PM »
Quote from: OHCA
SpiritusSanctus,

I am absolutely going to consider what you say.  My fear is that some poor soul will fall for what he says.  The heart of the main issue covered in this forum will naturally attracts some people who are quite desperate for answers.

Also, even not considering the desperation some may feel over our current circuмstances, some people are gullible and others are young and impressionable who may come across this anti-Catholic hogwash.  We have many members, and probably many other browsers/lurkers.  I think his rhetoric is dangerous to souls.

This is a particularly confusing time and I would hate to see some young person searching the net for information about the Latin Mass to stumble across one of Classiccom's posts.  And worse still, if such a young person a week later encountered an anti-Catholic Chick tract, the young person would likely think, "This is even what that traditional Catholic gentleman was saying."


OHCA, I am not saying not to correct Classicom at all. Obviously there are times when he should be corrected, and this was one of those times. I just don't want to see you spend all of your valuble time typing long replies to him. Time is to be treasured, we only have so much of it on this earth. I simply suggest only typing long replies to Classicom when necessary. Short replies will usually do fine. Of course, there was a member here who just recently got banned (CM) that owned his own blog and was an extremist. I use the term "extremist" to describe a person whose viewpoints are similar to sedevacanism but are much more extreme and go beyong, thus why I call it extremism. Anyway, CM believed that good Popes such as Pius X were anti-popes, he believed nearly everyone but himself was a heretic, he believed that every single priest in the United States sold his soul to the Devil, and he apparently considered himself to be Pope. He convinced poor people via his blog that many of these things were true, and I do think we should fight against these things, yet we should just make sure we don't spend too much of our time on it.

I do applaud you, OHCA, for sticking up for Traditional Catholicism. I think you will soon find yourself right at home here on CatholicInfo since most people here are indeed Traditional Catholics.

God Bless.