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Offline anonymouscatholicus

Re: OPEN LETTER to E. MIchael Jones in defense of Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2024, 06:58:42 PM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on October 18, 2024, 01:34:14 PM
So strange about E Michael Jones. He seems so brilliant on the history of the Church, and the JQ, but he is strangely blinded by the NO and support for the abomination in the Vatican.
I heard that he is a bit autistic ( seriously) and this might explain why he has such blinders on when speaking about Vll and modernist Rome. Crazy
I always wondered how his fb account could be up for so long without a bit of censure whereas low profile people get censored for fractions of what he has said on JQ. I hope I am wrong, but do personally thing he is the "gatekeeper." 

He can go full 100% on JQ but when it comes to salvation of souls he keeps people in check confused and attached to the antichurch and false pope. 
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Offline Valentine

Re: OPEN LETTER to E. MIchael Jones in defense of Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2024, 07:41:55 PM »
Quote from: anonymouscatholicus on October 18, 2024, 06:58:42 PM
I always wondered how his fb account could be up for so long without a bit of censure whereas low profile people get censored for fractions of what he has said on JQ. I hope I am wrong, but do personally thing he is the "gatekeeper."

He can go full 100% on JQ but when it comes to salvation of souls he keeps people in check confused and attached to the antichurch and false pope.
The devil will tell you 99 truths to get you to believe one lie, if that lie will be your undoing. 
Knowing about the JQ, the h0Ɩ0cαųst, the jab, are all important things. Jones speaks authoritatively about these subjects, which in turn gives him credibility on matters he is totally wrong about, such as Vatican II. 
In other words, it won't do you much good to know about the money lenders if you remain stuck in the conciliar church. 
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Offline drew

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Re: OPEN LETTER to E. MIchael Jones in defense of Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2024, 07:46:46 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on October 18, 2024, 06:40:25 PM
:facepalm: Not this crap again?  It's completely false, and yet you persist in it.

The definition of heresy is a baptized Catholic who denies dogma. The faithful are those who keep dogma as their rule of faith. The heretic denies dogma. This essential definition, which provides the genus and species difference, is the most intelligible of all definitions, yet, it is unintelligible to you.

I refer anyone who has any doubt that dogma is the proximate rule of faith for all faithful Catholics to read the CathInfo thread, Is Father Ringrose Dumping the R&R Crowd?:

https://www.cathinfo.com/SSPX-RESISTANCE-NEWS/IS-FATHER-RINGROSE-DUMPING-THE-R-R-CROWD/


My replies begin on page 4:

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/is-father-ringrose-dumping-the-r-r-crowd/msg598973/#msg598973

The CathInfo thread now has over 235,000 views and although the thread had all of your posts deleted by the moderator, they can still be read in every reply I made to you because I included your posts in their entirety. There are many proofs offered that dogma is the proximate rule of faith drawn from authority citing Magisterial docuмents, Church fathers, and theologians. I have received many personal replies from Catholics who have benefited from this discussion. 

What you need to remember is: All heretics are schismatics and since Vatican I, all schismatics are heretics. Any qualification you have to offer will be a waste of breath because you do not know the proximate rule of faith.

Drew 


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Offline Stubborn

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Re: OPEN LETTER to E. MIchael Jones in defense of Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2024, 05:54:51 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on October 18, 2024, 06:43:13 PM
While this is true in practice (in every case I know about), it is theoretically still possible to be a schismatic without being a heretic.  You can be in chronic disobedience to the Pope to an extent sufficient to constitute schism even while admitting his right in theory to command your obedience.  So, for example, the SSPX very clearly border on it, where they claim "in theory" that the Pope has the authority to command our obedience, but then assert that they have the right to chronically disobey his teaching, and the universal discipline he establishes if they judge that they "know better".
Oh brother.
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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

Re: OPEN LETTER to E. MIchael Jones in defense of Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2024, 06:04:34 AM »
God is revealing the people you should avoid.  Why waste time with Michael Jones?  What we should be doing is talking to others about the true faith.  
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