On Sunday, Catholic Mass won't sound the same
By Jim Roope
CNN Radio National Correspondent

If you’re Catholic, mass this Sunday will sound different for  the first time in nearly half a century.

You’ll hear it in the prayers of both the people and the priests.

“We have come back to a more accurate translation of the Latin from the Roman Missal,” said Fr. Rick Hilgartner, executive director of the Divine Office of Worship for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. “The language of prayer should be evocative, speaking in terms of imagery and metaphor.”

The changes are enormous, said Fr. Richard Albarano, of St. Francis Xavier Church in Burbank, California, and should help the 280 million English-speaking Catholics grow in their  love for the mass. “The mass is the center of our lives,” said Albarano.

Not since the Second Vatican Council in 1965 have such sweeping changes been made.

The Vatican II changes were radical – the priest spoke in English instead of Latin and he faced the people instead of having his back to them. An Old Testament reading was also added to the mass, a surprise to many who thought of the Catholic Church as a New Testament only church.

Other changes, large and small, were designed by Pope John XXIII to get the people (and not just the priest) involved in the mass. But the changes were not communicated in advance. People showed up one Sunday morning, and it was all changed.

“They wondered if they were even in a Catholic church,” said Albarano.

This time, the Catholic Church has been talking about the changes, and communicating them to parishes, since 2000. For the past three months, many parishes have been working to ready their followers for the changes in the wording of the prayers.

That doesn’t mean some won’t be caught by surprise. “It’s going to be like Vatican II all over again,” Albarano said. “I haven’t heard much about catechizing across the Los Angeles Archdiocese at all. We said we were going to do it. I hope we did.”

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Actually, not Sunday, but tonight at the "Saturday vigil".

I went.

It's not noticeably different. At all.

 An Old Testament reading was also added to the mass, a surprise to many who thought of the Catholic Church as a New Testament only church.

What the heck is he talking about? Every Mass quoted the Psalms, and many of them had from Proverbs, Isaiah, Ecclesiasticus, etc. The entire Breviary is designed around the Psalms.

“They wondered if they were even in a Catholic church,” said Albarano.

True dat, and still wondering.

Other changes, large and small, were designed by Pope John XXIII to get the people (and not just the priest) involved in the mass.

Can these idiots do even the most basic research? If they can get this wrong, what else do they screw up? (Don't answer that. I already have a pretty good idea.)

Quote from: Nishant2011

I found it better in many ways. The language is richer in the imagery it suggests, the prayers are not merely run through, but address God more reverently, and there is a more vivid expression of the Church's faith in the holy Sacrifice, and in the offering we bring to the Majesty of God from the gifts He has given us.

Good for you, Nishant. I hear the Methodists are gonna change some of their introductory prayers, too. Maybe you should run over there and check them out.

Despite the insinuation, there is no reason I would want to worship outside the Church. There is no Latin Mass in my state, FSSP, SSPX or otherwise. I travel around 2 hours from my university back and forth for Mass as it is. If I believed it was God's will for me to become a "home-aloner", and I think I have devoted a fair amount of time to studied and prayerful consideration of the matter, I would.

Nishant, for real?


Sedevacantism is a valid opinion , and in my belief, a true one. Now I can't force anyone to believe it, for they must come to it upon their own reason and seeing the evidence, but to reject home-alonism as worse than attending a Novus Ordo is insane even by normal standards.


Home-alonism is wrong, but it is still safer than Novus Ordo, which is a mortal sin IMO.

St.Jude,

When you go to the Novus Ordo, you are worshipping outside the Catholic Faith. Your faith will erode and you will start doing exactly what you just did on this thread--praising cosmetic changes to a "mass" that was fabricated with the intent to change how Catholics believe and think. Lipstick on a pig, in other words. No one is obligated to go to a protestantized mass.

Well, I don't think we'll agree, and I'm open to changing my position, but I've explained my stance before, and I don't think I need go over it again. In brief, I believe it is a rite of Holy Mother Church, and therefore cannot be invalid or illicit, and that, when the text is studied carefully, the doctrine of the Eucharist as at once both a sacrament and sacrifice is maintained, which all Protestants still deny, which is why none of them will use language like "the oblation of your Church, recognizing the Sacrificial Victim" etc.

I know there are many abuses, but then there were abuses of Indulgences. It would be easier for me, humanly speaking, not to go, but I believe the obligation on the Lord's day still holds for me. I do not see that it is harmful to Faith.

PIO,

to reject home-alonism as worse than attending a Novus Ordo is insane even by normal standards

Well, maybe if you believe it is invalid or illicit. I don't.

 ... the change to me is just a slight improvement.  

After the Protestant Revolution the Anglicans made reforms to one of their sacraments too, changing some elements back to the Catholic form. It is not good enough. It is still invalid. The High Church Anglicans have a better liturgy than he Novus Mess, but it still is not Catholic.

No matter how it gets tweaked the Novus Ordo is a revolutionary Mess.

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

So Benedict changes the words of the Consecration back to "for many" to get rid of the controversy on that matter. Ok, now how about we just toss aside the Bogus Ordo all together? Benedict can change it all he wants, but regardless of what he adds or removes the fact remains that it was started by Freemasons to please the Protestants, and we are not obliged to attend such an apostasy. I'll be glad when the entire thing, along with Vatican II, is flushed down the toilet one day.

I will never again attend the Bogus Ordo, unless it was the wedding or funeral of a close family member or friend. But if that ever occured, I'd probably check with an SSPX priest just to make sure before I set foot in such a hoot-nanny.

Oh, and thumbs-up to St. Jude Thaddeus and PIO for such great posts.

Thanks SS. I think I just echo alot of what you and I, and other traditional Catholics say and believe, and profess.

I think Nishant is a good soul , and just confused on somethings. Which isn't a sin in and of itself. You are in my prayers, Nishant.

The words of Consecration have not changed.

The word has always been "multis".

The Pope just sacked the translators.