Author Topic: They Elected this Guy Pope? (Read 4311 times)

Mabel · « **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2013, 10:11:01 PM »

Bergoglio blesses protestant ministers, even the old priests at our local "indult" won't do that. It is indicative that this man has no intention to worship the One, True God but rather a god of all religions.

chrstnoel1 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2013, 11:49:09 PM »

VATICAN II continues...........! The never ending story. :geezer:

Zeitun · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2013, 12:03:38 AM »

I believe the choice of "Franciscus" is linked to Assisi, not the great Saint Francis.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2013, 12:28:11 AM »

Quote from: Zeitun

I believe the choice of "Franciscus" is linked to Assisi, not the great Saint Francis.

I thought it was St. Francis Xavier, a Jesuit

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2013, 12:44:48 AM »

Francis I is no more a valid Pope than Arthur Fonzarelli, also known as the Fonz.

Peregrine · « **Reply #20 on:** March 14, 2013, 10:08:40 AM »

Dr. Droleskey has given some extensive background information at:

http://christorchaos.com/FrancisTheTalkingApostate.html

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #21 on:** March 14, 2013, 10:38:41 AM »

Good link, Peregrine.
Love this gem, right from the horses mouth:

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BERGOGLIO: Staying, remaining faithful implies an outgoing. Precisely if one remains in the Lord one goes out of oneself. Paradoxically precisely because one remains, precisely if one is faithful one changes. One does not remain faithful, like the traditionalists or the fundamentalists, to the letter. Fidelity is always a change, a blossoming, a growth. The Lord brings about a change in those who are faithful to Him. That is Catholic doctrine. Saint Vincent of Lerins makes the comparison between the biologic development of the person, between the person who grows, and the Tradition which, in handing on the depositum fidei from one age to another, grows and consolidates with the passage of time:

ruh roh. Buckle up, traddies.

pat · « **Reply #22 on:** March 14, 2013, 10:01:37 PM »

Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta

Good link, Peregrine.
Love this gem, right from the horses mouth:
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BERGOGLIO: Staying, remaining faithful implies an outgoing. Precisely if one remains in the Lord one goes out of oneself. Paradoxically precisely because one remains, precisely if one is faithful one changes. One does not remain faithful, like the traditionalists or the fundamentalists, to the letter. Fidelity is always a change, a blossoming, a growth. The Lord brings about a change in those who are faithful to Him. That is Catholic doctrine. Saint Vincent of Lerins makes the comparison between the biologic development of the person, between the person who grows, and the Tradition which, in handing on the depositum fidei from one age to another, grows and consolidates with the passage of time:

ruh roh. Buckle up, traddies.

having been protestant for a while comes in handy....

this is from Douay Rheims btw

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ, yesterday, and today; and the same for ever

don't see the "change" here...Thank the Lord

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #23 on:** March 14, 2013, 10:13:13 PM »

You have excellent insight because of your background, Pat. I was previously quite novus ordo until about 10 years ago.. which is like being protestant! :dancing-banana:
Glad we're on the same team now.

pat · « **Reply #24 on:** March 14, 2013, 10:16:57 PM »

Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta

You have excellent insight because of your background, Pat. I was previously quite novus ordo until about 10 years ago.. which is like being protestant! :dancing-banana:
Glad we're on the same team now.

:dancing-banana: right back at ya!

Francisco · « **Reply #25 on:** March 15, 2013, 06:53:01 AM »

Quote from: Matto

I asked this question before and I did not get an answer. What does Fellay have to gain from selling out the SSPX? I do not understand his actions because I don't know what he would gain from them.

Matto, about two years or so ago, you could almost say there was a general consensus among Society priests that "canonical recognition" was most desirable. It was said that it would benefit the apostolate and bring into Tradition all the fence sitters and other interested Catholics. One priest, at present tending towards the Resistance, shocked me then by saying that there was no other way. ( I asked him why Abp L didnt go in for this canonical recognition, and he fell silent ). It was a mystery. Why did they want to be canonical recognised by a bunch of Modernist apostates?

What would Fellay gain from his actions? He would be seen as the leader who removed the heads of his ostriches from the sand in order to live in the 21st Century. We would gain nothing from joining the Conciliarists, but Fellay, after extensive dealing with them perhaps decided that they were nice, normal people, with a very decent pope and that we were in a out of date rut and had to be pulled out.

Remember, he is prepared to sacrifice doctrine. Yes indeed, what will he gain. He's still after a deal.