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« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2010, 11:48:20 AM »
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  • Quote from: Belloc
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    Dignitatis Humanae is opposed to the First Commandment.

    If the legitimate authority of laws comes from God it is not possible to make a principle of the "right" to violate the First Commandment.



    This is what I was told by a sedevacantist priest, but they are the only ones who have said this.  You will not hear this from a novus ordo priest.  And, if you ask them about it, they deny it.

    So, who is right?


    my priest is diocesan and though he does not like to, has to say  the NO-and he has said this, so yes, there is a NO priest that would say that-lets not paint all with one brush stroke...

    that said, my priest has said publicly, at NO and TLM, that he prefers to say only the TLM...not made friends with that in some groups....

    also, just recalled, that Fr. Wolfe and McLucas have made statements to that effect and they are FSSP, which from SV view usually puts them in the NO camp.....


    I would assume that the FSSP priests would play it straight.  Also, I am sure that a few novus ordo priests would as well, but a lot of them didn't get a solid seminary training.  Pre-VII documents were glossed over in favor of the all great VII.   I know a young priest that doesn't even know what Mortalium Animos is.

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    « Reply #46 on: July 07, 2010, 11:51:16 AM »
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  • yikews! programming runs deep...

    I have a talk somewhere where the FSSP priest states he was told in seminary that Luther was right, the Eucharist is a cookie nad that thye-presumbly the rebesl-will not fail again and they admitted V2 was an open pandoras box....that documents purposely vague and twisted.....
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    « Reply #47 on: July 07, 2010, 11:55:40 AM »
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    yikews! programming runs deep...

    I have a talk somewhere where the FSSP priest states he was told in seminary that Luther was right, the Eucharist is a cookie nad that thye-presumbly the rebesl-will not fail again and they admitted V2 was an open pandoras box....that documents purposely vague and twisted.....


    Is this true?  The FSSP you mentioned, he didn't hear this in an FSSP seminary, did he?  I can't imagine teaching heresy.

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    « Reply #48 on: July 07, 2010, 12:05:42 PM »
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  • not sure where he was, somewhere in middle states-Michigan? Minn?-if I find the talk, will see if seminary is named...
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