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Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #315 on: January 20, 2022, 03:54:10 PM »
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #316 on: January 21, 2022, 06:57:46 AM »
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                                                      St. Dominic's Chapel Sunday Bulletin - January 23, 2022
                                                                                      (PAGE 2)


    TO THOSE WHO WISH TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT FATHER STARBUCK HAD BEEN ABANDONED, BETRAYED AND LEFT "HIGH & DRY" WITHOUT FUNDS NEARLY OVERNIGHT  - TWO DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS - BY THOSE IN CHARGE ("THE BOARD" OF OUR LADY HELP OF CHRISTIANS) BY THEM ORDERING HIM (AFTER 15 YEARS OF FAITHFULLY SERVING OLHC BY HIM PERFORMING HIS PRIESTLY DUTIES, I.E., SAYING MASS, HEARING CONFESSIONS, BAPTISMS, ANOINTING OF THE SICK, FUNERALS, ETC. TO NOT COME ON THE PROPERTY OF OLHC AGAIN OR "WE WILL HAVE YOU ARRESTED FOR TRESPASSING" BECAUSE OF THE CONTENTS OF A SERMON HE GAVE REGARDING THE VETTING OF "FR." MICHAEL WIEST AT OLHC!

    THE COMPLETE SERMON CAN BE READ ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE THREAD " OLHC LAYPERSONS ATTEMPTING TO TAKE OVER CHAPEL CENSOR FR. STARBUCK'S SERMON" OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon

    GENEROUS FUNDS IS URGENTLY NEEDED FOR FATHER IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN HIMSELF GOING FORWARD IN HIS QUEST AND COMMITMENT TO FAITHFULLY SAY THE PRE1962 LATIN MASS AT HIS NEW ST. DOMINIC'S CHAPEL!

    FATHER HAS MANY NEEDS FOR FUNDS WHICH INCLUDE FOOD AND VERY URGENTLY FATHER CANNOT AFFORD AND DOES NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE! THIS PUTS FATHER IN A VERY DIRE EMERGENCY SITUATION IF HE WERE TO (GOD FORBID) GET SICK!

    AS THE AUTHOR OF THIS THREAD (SUPPORTFRSTARBUCK) FATHER HAS NO IDEA THAT I'M MAKING THIS PLEA FOR HIM. IN FACT, FATHER DOESN'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF, SO I'M HOPING FATHER DOES NOT GET DISAPPOINTED IN ME FOR THIS PLEA!

    FATHER WROTE:  "Additionally, I do know that the board is considering (interviewing) priests who celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Roman Missal. I want to say that it has been our position that this Missal is theologically inadequate (if not modernistic). Fr. Perez vehemently rejected the 1962 Roman Missal. Moreover, it is likely to be problematic to our public celebration of Mass in this church."

    SO FATHER IS A FAITHFUL RARE PRIEST TO THE PRE1962 MISSAL. SO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR LOVES FATHER DEARLY FOR THIS "PASSION" HE SUFFERED AT THE HANDS OF OLHC CHAPEL THESE LAST FEW MONTHS.  HE GAVE OF HIS BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS.

    I ASK THAT YOU LOOK INTO YOUR HEARTS AND FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT FATHER STARBUCK FINANCIALLY IN WHATEVER WAY GOD PROMPTS YOU BY THE INDWELLING OF THE HOLY GHOST WITHIN YOU.  GOD WILL REWARD YOU FOR HELPING THIS VERY HOLY HUMBLE PRIEST OF CHRIST!  HERE IS FATHER'S POST OFFICE BOX. THANK YOU.

    FATHER CEDRICK STARBUCK
    P.O.B. 427
    TUSTIN, CA 92781
    Fr. Starbuck lives in CA, the state with very liberal government aid.  Can't he get food stamps, money, bus service or dial-a-ride, medical care and even housing aid?

    Sister A, as a Carmelite, is not allowed to receive such.  She is in dire need, going many days without food or shelter.


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #317 on: January 21, 2022, 05:06:11 PM »
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  • Fr. Starbuck lives in CA, the state with very liberal government aid.  Can't he get food stamps, money, bus service or dial-a-ride, medical care and even housing aid?

    Sister A, as a Carmelite, is not allowed to receive such.  She is in dire need, going many days without food or shelter.
    Father Starbuck has moral objections to being on the dole.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #318 on: January 21, 2022, 07:58:03 PM »
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  • Sister A, as a Carmelite, is not allowed to receive such.  She is in dire need, going many days without food or shelter.
    Wait a minute? The people in this chapel are allowing an elderly woman to go without food or shelter? 

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #319 on: January 21, 2022, 09:28:41 PM »
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  • Father Starbuck has moral objections to being on the dole.
    Good for him.  Sister is not allowed to be on the dole, per her order.


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #320 on: January 21, 2022, 09:29:03 PM »
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  • Wait a minute? The people in this chapel are allowing an elderly woman to go without food or shelter?
    Not just an elderly woman, but an elderly and ill professed carmelite nun.  She has been going without proper food and shelter for a few years now.  sickening.
    and even if they don't consider her a nun, which is a fallacy, she is still a human being.

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #321 on: January 22, 2022, 09:34:34 PM »
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  • Any updates of the status of "Fr." Michael Wiest?  Is he still hearing confessions and saying Mass without having been vetted by the "School Board?"  Do we know yet where he was ordained, when and what bishop ordained him  Do we know where he has been serving as a priest for the past 20 years or so?  Why does Padre Pio Academy "School Board" allow this to go on without vetting "Fr." Michael Wiest?  Why does he continue to vehemently refuse to show his drivers license when ask to do so because its the law if he is working with children (alter boys).  Why is there NO MICHAEL WIEST ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET?  Any updates?  Is he still there?  Imagine how the faithful would feel if they realized that they have been made fools of by going to someone for confession, Mass WHO IS NOT A PRIEST!  The Class Action Law Suit will be massive against OLHC, Padre Pio Academy and "The Board!"  Updates anyone??

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #322 on: January 23, 2022, 07:04:32 AM »
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  • Any updates of the status of "Fr." Michael Wiest?  Is he still hearing confessions and saying Mass without having been vetted by the "School Board?"  Do we know yet where he was ordained, when and what bishop ordained him  Do we know where he has been serving as a priest for the past 20 years or so?  Why does Padre Pio Academy "School Board" allow this to go on without vetting "Fr." Michael Wiest?  Why does he continue to vehemently refuse to show his drivers license when ask to do so because its the law if he is working with children (alter boys).  Why is there NO MICHAEL WIEST ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET?  Any updates?  Is he still there?  Imagine how the faithful would feel if they realized that they have been made fools of by going to someone for confession, Mass WHO IS NOT A PRIEST!  The Class Action Law Suit will be massive against OLHC, Padre Pio Academy and "The Board!"  Updates anyone??
    from OLHC website

    "January 6, 2022


    A. M. D. G.
    I write this letter for a double purpose. Both are important. One is of good wishes for the present.
    God first willingly submitted Himself to unrestrained human evil for a purpose of His own, and then quickly undid all the effects of evil by rising from the dead. In so doing, he achieved the results he sought in His passion and death and thus nullified and triumphed over all the evil men had done Him. Thus He vindicated and established His work and His power, both as regards His own affairs and as regards what He has promised to us. With God, responsible effort and good will never end in defeat, though for a time there may be darkness. The implications of all these things have limitless applications to our successes and failures, our trials and our blessings in this life, and to the ultimate outcome of all the things which are beyond our control but within the bounds of Divine Knowledge and Power. This is the sure, certain basis for unwavering and unshakeable Christian confidence, peace, hope. Some in-depth participation in this light and goodness and joy is what I wish you and yours as a special blessing.
    And secondly, I have been conscious of your great kindness to me at Christmas. I cannot be absolved of the obligation of gratitude until I express to you my appreciation of your kindness and thoughtfulness.
    Sincerely in Christ,
    Father Schell (1982)
    [Fr. Schell was SO great!  Always spot on.  Pray for him.]


    "Father Fred Schell was responsible for bringing Holy Mass to us from the mid-1970’s until his death some 25 years later. Father says it well that, “responsible effort and good will never end in defeat, though for a time there may be darkness”. At the time of Monsignor Perez’ death, the Padre Pio Academy Board of Directors was presented by Monsignor’s sister, a sealed envelope containing a letter, handwritten by Monsignor and, dated March 4, 2021, (while he was in reasonably good health and certainly of sound mind) and witnessed by two of his friends, neither of whom were/are board members. In this letter, he transfers complete authority of Our Lady Help of Christians to the PPA Board of Directors, who he (Monsignor Perez), gives the full responsibility with specific instructions, of finding a new pastor. Upon meeting with that same Board and being informed of the instructions given them by Monsignor, Father Starbuck’s deciding reply, as he reiterated in his public sermon and as has been published on the internet, was that he would not work under the authority of another priest as pastor; nor would he take any good faith advice from the Board. As you can deduce from the sermon of December 19, Father Starbuck refused to accept Monsignor’s stipulation, effectively declining to work with other priests, and in fact publicly denouncing one by name. This had clearly become an unworkable situation since Father had obviously decided to go his own way. We wish Father Starbuck well and thank him for the years he has spent with us.
    Some there are who have accused the Board’s members of money- and power-grabbing. Be it known that these members and other parishioners who have selflessly helped them, have spent countless hours and days with no remuneration (nor do they want or expect any,) compensating as best they can for the void left by the death of Monsignor Perez. As for power-grabbing, where is the power? In the labor of love? In executing the directives of the Monsignor Perez? In suffering baseless narcissistic allegations and fabrications?
    Please keep Our Lady Help of Christians in your prayers as the Board continues to perform its legal and ethical obligations in the best interest of the Chapel, (three weeks completed), and as we move forward in our search for qualified priestly candidates. God willing, we will have the Traditional Latin Mass celebrated every Sunday, and soon daily, upon our altar. Sadly, this is all part of the penance we must suffer through due to the tragic state of the Church and of the world today. “In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph.”


    We can only pray that "qualified priestly candidates" does not include Wiest, Pfeiffer or any of his ilk including Croisette, Cooke, Poisson, Tetherow, Cordaro, Macek, Moran, Roberts, or worse, Ensey (who used to be a congregation member), etc.


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #323 on: January 23, 2022, 01:48:39 PM »
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  • from OLHC website
    At the time of Monsignor Perez’ death, the Padre Pio Academy Board of Directors was presented by Monsignor’s sister, a sealed envelope containing a letter, handwritten by Monsignor and, dated March 4, 2021, (while he was in reasonably good health and certainly of sound mind) and witnessed by two of his friends, neither of whom were/are board members. In this letter, he transfers complete authority of Our Lady Help of Christians to the PPA Board of Directors, who he (Monsignor Perez), gives the full responsibility with specific instructions, of finding a new pastor.

    This is not the first story told by the flip-flopping school board.
    1. First they circulated the story that  Father Perez wrote such a letter in 2014.
    2. When members of the chapel didn't buy that, they then spread the story of Father Perez writing the purported letter prior to his hip surgery in March 2021, when he was in enormous pain and didn’t know if he’d make it through surgery.
    3. The latest version now includes two corrections or additions
    3a. They now claim that he was not in enormous pain but rather in “reasonably good health.”
    3b The addition of Father Perez’s grieving sister having a copy of the purported letter.

    Those of us who were blessed to have known Father Perez, know that he was a straightforward person who said what he thought. At times he was even known to be blunt. If Father Perez truly had written any letter in case of his unexpected death,  he would have been straightforward. If  Father Perez did not want Father Starbuck to take his place as head of the chapel, he would have made that clear to Father Starbuck and to others. He did not do so.

    Father Perez’s death was totally unexpected, and at the time of the writing of this purported letter he would not know if his sister would pre-decease him or not. It makes no sense whatsoever that he would supposedly give only one copy to one person.

    If any such letter actually existed, Father Perez would have given a copy to Father Starbuck and  several key members of the parish, but not to the four school board members because that would appear to be an obvious conflict of interest. (Look we found this letter which gives us total control!)

    The following have yet to be verified:
    Whether this purported "letter" actually exists or not,
    whether this purported "letter" was actually written by Father Perez or not,
    whether this purported "letter" was ever in the hands of Father Perez's sister or not.
    Given the earlier versions of the school board’s stories, strong reasons exist to doubt their veracity.

    Another unanswered question is why has the school board has repeatedly covered up for Wiest?
    He has repeatedly and adamantly refused to produce his drivers’ license.
    He has repeatedly and adamantly refused to produce papers of ordination.
    He was presenting himself as a layman six months prior to arriving at OLHC. (Photo evidence)
    He had a pagan altar in his home. (Photo evidence).

    Father Starbuck had originally been asked by Father Perez to follow up with the school board as to why they refused to properly vet Wiest.  After the untimely death of Father Perez, Father Starbuck continued to comply with Father Perez’s  directive. For doing so, the school board struck back by circulating lies about Father Starbuck. Knowing that chapel members had been previously wounded by admitted pedophile and laicised Father Colletti, our good Father Starbuck persisted. As a last resort, he eventually addressed the problem from the pulpit, asking the school board to do their due diligence. That was at the 7:30 Mass. He then heard confessions prior to the next Mass.

    While confessions were in progress, one school board member went to the next person in line and told her that she was the last confession. Then he went to the outside confessional door. (Did he wait until she was findished?) Then he yanked the confessional door open and screamed at Father Starbuck not to mention the problem again from the pulpit. The same school board member then unplugged the mike so no one could hear the sermon.

    Why is the school board attacking Father Starbuck and why are they refusing to vet Wiest? They have continued to support Wiest financially, while at the same time they cut off financial support for Sister te Deo, kicking her out of her home right before Christmas. Likewise, after leading Father Starbuck to believe that he would continue to serve the chapel for a period of time, they abruptly told him on Dec. 23 that he would not be saying Masses on Christmas, he was on “vacation” and he would be “arrested for trespassing” if he set foot on the property.

    For good measure, the school board attempted to set up Father Starbuck by having a person plead with him that they needed to get something out of Father Starbuck’s locked private office on the property and would he please go with them to OLHC. He is a kind priest always willing to help, but Our Lady protected him. (It's obvious, given their track record that had he agreed to the person's request, he would undoubtedly have been arrested for trespassing and they would have taken photos in order to further humiliate him.)

    The school board also. cut off financial support for Father Starbuck. They instructed chapel members to send all checks, including Mass offerings to Mary Lewis, who designated herself to decide how much of the Mass offerings to keep and how much to pass on to Father Starbuck.

    The school board have proven themselves to be untrustworthy.

    Please join us in saying the 54-day Rosary Novena to Our Lady of the Rosary for the rot to be rooted out of the chapel and for the protection and guidance of Father Starbuck. Janurary 27th will be day 27, and then we will begin our prayers of thanksgiving.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #324 on: January 23, 2022, 02:03:11 PM »
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  • We can only pray that "qualified priestly candidates" does not include Wiest, Pfeiffer or any of his ilk including Croisette, Cooke, Poisson, Tetherow, Cordaro, Macek, Moran, Roberts, or worse, Ensey (who used to be a congregation member), etc.
    God is Great. God is good. God is merciful. God takes what the enemy intends for evil and uses it for good.

    God bless young Croisette, who attended St. Dominic's Chapel (Father Starbuck's chapel) this morning in a suit and tie.

    Please pray for him and for his family. Pray also for the other young man from OLHC who, like many here on CathInfo, got taken in by Pfeiffer (who has also attended St. Dominic's).

    God bless our good, humble Father Starbuck. May Our Lady continue to protect and guide him.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #325 on: January 23, 2022, 09:15:31 PM »
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  • Thank you everyone for your prayers to Our Blessed Mother and the rosaries for Fr. Starbuck.  I believe God is responding to your prayers.

     As a quote from the touching beautiful movie "Field of Dreams" "If You Build It They Will Come." We are now seeing God's Hand over Father Starbuck and his ever-growing success in offering of the Holiest Pre1962 Latin Mass! There was full capacity worshipers at both Masses Sunday totally approximately 130 souls!!  Everyone was so gracious and loving to Father.


    And now we look forward next week to the beginning of  the "Live Feed" at Mass.  More souls will now get to know Father as they watch his beautiful holy reverent manner he says The Latin Mass. Remember to please come early for confessions before each Mass.

    Mass schedule for January 28th to 30th

    January 28th - Friday 8:30 a.m.
    January 29th - Saturday 8:30 a.m.
    January 30th - Sunday 7:30 a.m. & 9:30 a.m.
    Confessions before each Mass




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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #326 on: January 23, 2022, 09:48:24 PM »
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  • God is Great. God is good. God is merciful. God takes what the enemy intends for evil and uses it for good.

    God bless young Croisette, who attended St. Dominic's Chapel (Father Starbuck's chapel) this morning in a suit and tie.

    Please pray for him and for his family. Pray also for the other young man from OLHC who, like many here on CathInfo, got taken in by Pfeiffer (who has also attended St. Dominic's).

    God bless our good, humble Father Starbuck. May Our Lady continue to protect and guide him.
    He was "ordained" by Pfeiffer last June and has said "mass" several times.  Why was he in a suit and tie?????

    How is young Mr. Cooke doing?,  Is he still at OLMC?  Still saying "mass"?

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #327 on: January 23, 2022, 11:05:14 PM »
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  • God is Great. God is good. God is merciful. God takes what the enemy intends for evil and uses it for good.

    God bless young Croisette, who attended St. Dominic's Chapel (Father Starbuck's chapel) this morning in a suit and tie.

    Please pray for him and for his family. Pray also for the other young man from OLHC who, like many here on CathInfo, got taken in by Pfeiffer (who has also attended St. Dominic's).

    God bless our good, humble Father Starbuck. May Our Lady continue to protect and guide him.
    are you sure it was Daniel Croisette who was in a suit and tie at Fr Starbuck's mass?

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #328 on: January 25, 2022, 12:30:26 PM »
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  • Although the wonderful history of OLHC is informative, some of the spiritually elequent posts here might be beginning to, whether intentional or unintentional, distract and divert from one of the main reasons and purpose of this thread "OLHC laypersons attempting to take over the chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon" AND the fact that indeed the OLHC "School Board" composed of four (4) layman have indeed already accomplished that objection by disposing OVERNIGHT (Fr. Starbuck!)  He who has worked side-by-side and has been THE associate to Fr. Perez for 15 years!!
     
    I like St. Thomas say:  Judging by the conscienceless, cruel, base, unjust, and what I believe evil behavior of "The School Board" and their un-Catholic, uncharitable treatment of Fr. Starbuck , I do not trust  nor do I believe in some dubious "hand-written" note purportedly written by Father Perez!  All of a sudden, we're supposed to believe that there is suddenly this magical "proof" letter that Father Perez turned his back and betrayed and "ghosted" Fr. Starbuck's 15 years presence and service at OLHC. I don't believe Fr. Perez would have done such an injustice to Father Starbuck.

    SO, I SAY -- PROVE IT!!

    1)  By immediately publicly publishing the letter and fixing a hard copy to each OLHC bulletin for all the OLHC faithful to have in their possession!

    2) By hiring an impartial, unbiased, legally notarized handwriting expert!  He should be given access to this purportedly hand-written letter and compare it to other established past known hand written examples of Fr. Perez's handwriting! 

    So I say, llike St. Thomas - I DON'T BELIEVE IT!   Judging by the conscienceless, cruel, base, unjust, and in my opinion evil behavior of "The School Board's" treatment of Fr. Starbuck so again I say- Why should I trust them?  Additionally, I believe they have broken "trust" with the OLHC faithfull!


    In the meantime, for those who have not been fully informed nor have read previous posts here, I feel it is worthwhile re-posting these crucial concerns and facts of this thread:

    Following is the important history and events that has lead to the establishment of TLM now at St. Dominic's Chapel.  Father Starbuck had been and was the faithful priest/associate who worked side by side for 15 years with Father Perez (pastor of Our Lady Help of Christians) providing all the sacraments, i.e., the Mass, confessions, Baptisms, funerals, etc.

    Herein is the reason Father Starbuck was not present for any of the 2021 Christmas Masses at OLHC. This is the actual sermon he gave at the 7:30 and 10:00 a.m. Masses Sunday December 19th at OLHC.

    Before revealing the following sermon which was preached by Father Starbuck at OLHC, here is some shocking history of what occurred that morning of December 19th after the 7:30 a.m. Mass.

    The "man" who violently banged on the confession door after the 7:30 Mass while Father Starbuck was hearing confessions is no other than the usher from the 7:30 a.m. Mass "Joel Iddings." MR. IDDINGS IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE OLHC SCHOOL BOARD!  He yelled at Father "YOU ARE NOT TO GIVE THAT SERMON AT THE 10:00 MASS!"  Father was freightened by this psychological "assault."*  Father felt fearful by this individual's brutal aggression against him.  Mr. Iddings then ripped the mike out of its stand on the pulpit podium before the 10:00 a.m. Mass so Father would not be able to be heard giving his sermon again.  Bravely, Father gave it anyway without the mike.

    Sources in the parish had informed me that this "man" then ordered Father Starbuck to not come on church property again(after December 19th) and to not attempt to say the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass at all the coming Christmas week!  In addition, Mr. Iddings then threatened Father Starbuck that if he were to come on the property of OLHC again, he would personally see to it that Father would be arrested for trespassing! The injustice and abusive brutality of this "man" who knows that Father Starbuck had faithfully served Our Lady Help of Christians Chapel for 15 years!  This can only be characterized as the most cruel Un-Catholic like sacrilegious "Judas" act of betrayal to Father's faithful giving of himself to to Christ at OLHC for 15 years!

    *Assault Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

    "Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim.

    "The act required for an assault must be overt. Although words alone are insufficient, they might create an assault when coupled with some action (like viciously banging on the door of the confessional while Father is hearing confessions)  might be sufficient if it causes a reasonable apprehension of harm in the victim.  Intent is an essential element of assault. In tort law, it can be specific intent—if the assailant intends to cause the apprehension of harmful or offensive contact in the victim—or general intent—if he or she intends to do the act that causes such apprehension. In addition, the intent element is satisfied if it is substantially certain, to a reasonable person, that the act will cause the result."
    This despicable "man"  "Joel Iddings" sacrilegious act should be held accountable for his  "psychological assault" he perpetrated against Father Starbuck!

    What makes this "psychological assault" even more treacherous is that Father is a gentle, Christ-like, charitable, loving and giving priest!

    Lastly, who was responsible for the live-stream 10:00 Mass being blacked out that day which has always been live-streamed on Sundays. It was not that day! Who was responsible for that?


    Here is the actual sermon Fr. Starbuck gave 7:30 a.m. on that Sunday 19 December 2021:

    "I had a sermon prepared for this morning. However,there are some matters of business that do not allow deferral. Therefore, I will present that sermon at a later time.

    I have always tried to be truthful and to do the right thing. And sometimes I have paid a price for that. But please know this about me: I will always try to be honest with you and to fulfill my commitment to you as a public servant and as a priest. I want to begin by saying that these past five weeks of my life have been like no others. My vocation is not a job. It demands my every moment, and my every commitment, but this is especially so these past few weeks. And this on top of so much recent loss. I have given 15 years now of my life to this parish (a quarter of my life), and I was hoping to spend the remainder of my years here. I still hope that is possible. Over these years, I have rolled with the punches, & endured intricate/delicate, indeed,often complex situations. I have held my own. But when Fr. Perez died, there was only one person here who would rightfully have pastoral seniority to succeed him; and, like it or not, that is me!

    But shortly after Fr. Perez’s death, a lay board rose up asserting its legal authority to appoint the next “pastor” of this parish. I want to be clear in stating that (w/o pointing a finger at them) this is Lutheranism pure and simple. Laypeople could never have the ecclesial power or jurisdiction to appoint or create a pastor. That they may have a legal right is not the same as having a divine right. And while there are fine people on this board who engender my complete respect, the cohesion and leadership of this lay incorporation has been problematic. Nor do I see it being able to work. I did make it clear that I will not serve under another “pastor.” At the same time, I have wanted to  facilitate the transition that the church is undergoing at least through the end of the year. That has been my desire.

    I do not take my marching orders from laypeople. And I cannot, as a priest, answer to competing voices on a lay board.
    And moreover, as a priest, my credibility, leadership,and moral responsibility could be jeopardized if a situation not yet addressed in this parish is allowed to continue. My continuous requests for the vetting of priests serving in this parish have not & are not being met. We have had a couple of “priests” coming through here whose ordination I found questionable (based on information that later became available), and we have had at least one priest who had no business being here. Yes, mistakes were made (albeit, not on my part), and we should have learned from them.

    Five years ago, I proposed to Fr. Perez the following specific requirements of any priest serving in this parish. And they are the following:

    1. A criminal background check with ID, performed by a reputable third party, meeting state complacency. Also, the background check that I am requesting is not just a clearance check. It must consist of a positive trace of the person’s history."

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    *SupportFrStarbuck following insert:

    Re:  California Law - legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes

    ARTICLE 2. Commission on Teacher Credentialing [44210 - 44239]  ( Heading of Article 2 amended by Stats. 1988, Ch. 1355, Sec. 2.5. )
    44237.  (a) Every person, firm, association, partnership, or corporation offering or conducting private school instruction on the elementary or high school level shall require each applicant for employment in a position requiring contact with minor pupils to submit two sets of fingerprints prepared for submittal by the employer to the Department of Justice for the purpose of obtaining criminal record summary information from the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

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    *Continuation of Father's sermon:

    "2. References.

    3. A chronological work history.

    4. Proof of ordination. And I want to know the ordaining bishop, seminary, and formational contacts. And just for your information, as a Dominican I underwent thorough background checks and continuous vetting over a period of seven years. And I lived under a virtual microscope 24 hours a day during that time. Moreover, my background is not hidden. My formation and ordination can be found on the Internet. They are public.

    Of note, a request that I made of Fr. Perez last summer got dragged out, & and was never completed. And if I do not say something now, this situation will never be addressed. Let me ask a question. If you hired someone to work on your house, would you not want references? Or if you sent your children to a day care center, would you not want references? This is the house of God. Can we be any less responsible?

    So here is what I am asking: A priest is a public person. Let me repeat that: A priest is a public person. Therefore, with due respect to all parties involved & a presumption of good will on the part of all, I am asking that the vetting of Fr. Wiest be completed, and that the results of that vetting process, including proof of ordination be made public.

    The problem is that there is no public life of any Fr.Michael Wiest (I know this in part, not just because it cannot be found on the internet, but because I actually had a professional investigator call me one day to inform me of this. He was completely puzzled.) there is no public life of any Fr. Michael Wiest who was born in Chicago, ordained in Italy, and who served in any parish or diocese during these past 30 or so years.

    There is no public record of ministry. There is no record of pastoral assignments. In short, there is no
    such public person. And the fact that there is no such public person does not just amount to an absence of information, it amounts to a fact that demands explanation. It is a problem. And for this reason many in this parish question his ordination. For his own benefit we need to answer this  question. And we need to know the credentials of any priest serving in this parish. That is not asking too much.

    Finally, while I do not acknowledge the ecclesial authority of a lay board, if one is to exist, it must be cohesive, charitable, and committed to the principles of the Catholic faith. And if the parishioners of this church are unhappy with this arrangement, perhaps they need to consider another option, perhaps the appointment of a new board which they feel represents them. But with all due respect, I just do not see this lay board being able to resolve effectively the problems this parish faces, or to find a clear path forward. And FYI, this lay board represents the interests of the school (PPA) and not of the church.

    Additionally, I do know that the board is considering (interviewing) priests who celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Roman Missal. I want to say that it has been our position that this Missal is theologically inadequate (if not modernistic). Fr. Perez vehemently rejected the 1962 Roman Missal. Moreover, it is likely to be problematic to our public celebration of Mass in this church. May I remind you of some of the problems of this Missal (?):

    Revised rite of Holy Week. The famous writer Evelyn Waugh considered the revision of Holy Week to be an extremely disappointing loss.

    The introduction of red on Good Friday and Communion of the faithful were arbitrary and capricious, and miss the fundamental (essential) point of the liturgy (i.e., the Mass of the Pre-Sanctified). It omits Second Confiteor.  It omits numerous octaves, and accordingly significant vigils.

    It omits significant feasts, such as January 1: (the Feast of the Circuмcision). The theological
    significance: Christ is the fulfillment of the law!

    It introduces the Feast of St. Joseph the Worker (as a concession to the tenets of socialism)  It omits Commemorations.

    The Passion Narrative during Holy Week is considered to be the Gospel reading. A theological fiction.  Feasts of important saints are haphazardly &arbitrarily moved, making it confusing even to a priest to follow this new ordo.  Feasts of historically momentous saints are suppressed.

    St. Joseph is introduced to the Canon. Notably: This is the only change to the Canon since the time of St. Gregory the Great. Why such an introduction? And if this is admitted, then any change can be made to the Canon of the Mass. And the theological significance: St. Joseph was not a martyr, an exception to the list of those saints who appear in the Canon.

    It is inadequate to argue that there are no doctrinal problems with this Missal, as does the SSPX. It is a deviation from the lex orandi, it is theologically inadequate, & it is misguided in numerous respects.

    And even if you believe that the 1962 Roman Missal is okay, how could we serve the needs of this parish in requiring people to attend daily Mass with two missals, perhaps not knowing which priest is celebrating that day, not to mention the cost to those with less money?

    And finally, finding a priest who observes and understands tradition in the same way as Fr. Perez and myself is a virtually impossible task. You will likely either encounter a sedevacantist or a modernist (who says: “Yes I celebrate the traditional ‘extraordinary form of the Roman rite’ in Latin.”, as if there could be such thing). So I advise a great note of caution in introducing any priest to this parish.

    These are my concerns. You may respond as you see fitting & appropriate. However we proceed going forward, I call for civility & charity, for listening and understanding, and for a prayerful and thoughtful approach from all parties involved.

    Finally, while it is not my custom, I am willing to make a transcript of these words available in a PDF file for circulation, so that my words are clear for everyone’s understanding, for those who are absent, and for the public record. I do not have the time to send this out as a response to every email inquiry. But if someone could assist me in making it available, I am glad to provide a PDF file for circulation."


    Father Cedrick Starbuck



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