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Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #300 on: January 17, 2022, 04:12:34 PM »
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    • epiphany -  they had a school a long time before they bought the present property.  This property is fairly new for them.  They had a school in various buildings, long before they had this church building. I'm thinking it was in the 70's - or before - when they had a school in a park building in GG.  Where your parents there then?  Were they there when Fr. Perez first came on board?

    Do you know Debbie's history?  It goes way back.  Fr. S. may have heard her "final vows",  but he's not a Carmelite so it really means nothing.  After she took final vows, now she's not a Carmelite but just a hermit!!!  I'm telling you, the place is now a circus.  If you're happy with Fr. Starbuck & his chapel, then I would brush the dust from your feet & move on.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #301 on: January 17, 2022, 10:03:51 PM »
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    • Epiphany

    Thank you for your years at OLHC and thank you for your love for Fr. Schell.  I've been a supporting member of OLHC for 15 years!
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #302 on: January 17, 2022, 10:17:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Thorn on January 17, 2022, 04:12:34 PM
    epiphany -  they had a school a long time before they bought the present property.  This property is fairly new for them.  They had a school in various buildings, long before they had this church building. I'm thinking it was in the 70's - or before - when they had a school in a park building in GG.  Where your parents there then?  Were they there when Fr. Perez first came on board?

    Do you know Debbie's history?  It goes way back.  Fr. S. may have heard her "final vows",  but he's not a Carmelite so it really means nothing.  After she took final vows, now she's not a Carmelite but just a hermit!!!  I'm telling you, the place is now a circus.  If you're happy with Fr. Starbuck & his chapel, then I would brush the dust from your feet & move on.

    My family has been with OLHC 38 years, long before Fr. Perez or the school.

    Fr. Schell, God rest his soul, was at my parent's house talking to them about the possibility of forming a school long before there was a formal school. 

    I know sister's history and you are WAY off base, to the point of causing detraction.  Sister A is a nun, full stop.  She needs prayers. 

    FYI, ALL carmelites were hermits when the order began, and it is still an option now.

    Fr. Sretenovic wrote his lineage here on CI.  Wiest should do the same, providing copies of docuмents, since he has lied in the past, and then show his papers to the entire congregation.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #303 on: January 17, 2022, 10:20:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Thorn on January 16, 2022, 10:54:18 AM
    It wouldn't be the school board's responsibility to vet a priest.  That would have been Fr. Perez's responsibility. 
    This is partly true.
    Fr. Perez should have vetted Wiest to see if he was a priest.
    The school board should have done a background check on him to see if he is who he says he is, and to protect the children of the school.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #304 on: January 17, 2022, 10:51:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on January 17, 2022, 10:20:39 PM
    Fr. Perez should have vetted Wiest to see if he was a priest.
    The school board should have done a background check on him to see if he is who he says he is, and to protect the children of the school.

    Definitely.

    The status of a priest is not his own personal business -- a priest is a public man. His ordination and credentials are a matter of public record and the public good -- much more so than an engineer's credentials as an engineer (degree, grades, certifications, etc.)

    Life and death, heaven and hell rest upon a given priest being a valid priest. Hence the reason why ANY layman should be able to look into the ordination of any priest. And the priest should be happy to give his credentials -- unless he has something to hide of course. Beware any priest who gets angry when you ask about his ordination.

    Sincerely,
    A disinterested third-party who will always be far from California (Deo gratias!)
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #305 on: January 18, 2022, 05:58:41 AM »
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    • I run as fast as I can away from such a man posing as a priest.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #306 on: January 18, 2022, 06:15:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: SupportFrStarbuck on January 17, 2022, 10:03:51 PM
    Epiphany

    Thank you for your years at OLHC and thank you for your love for Fr. Schell.  I've been a supporting member of OLHC for 15 years!
    Fr. Schell was the best priest I have ever had the pleasure of knowing and receiving sacraments from.  His advice was always spot on.  I pray he is with the angels now.

    I haven't personally attended OLHC/St Patrick's Mission for years but I keep up with all of you because of my love for Fr. Schell.

    He once told me his goal before he died was to establish a school.  I imagine he is watching in disgust at the the school and chapel he spent his life building being torn apart by an infiltrator posing as a priest.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #307 on: January 19, 2022, 10:06:52 AM »
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    • epiphany, perhaps we're referring to 2 different women.  There is a real nun there who came after Debbie.  I'm referring to the hermit.  I'm surprised she hasn't left yet.  Her MO is to stay, then leave for some convent, then come back to leave again for another convent & return in her made-up 'habit'.  This went on for years.

    Matthew, OLHC is a mere pin prick in the map of CA.  CA is a beautiful state, large enough to be a nation, with everything going for it - miles of seashore, mountains, deserts, cities, wide open spaces, farms, etc. etc.  There are many beautiful SSPX churches & also Mel Gibson's beautiful church with a priest to say the TLM.  To equate CA with OLHC is a stretch as many other states have their weirdos too.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #308 on: January 19, 2022, 09:42:42 PM »
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    • epiphany, what nun were you referring to?  I think that the nun that came a few years ago was young.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #309 on: January 20, 2022, 07:04:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: Thorn on January 19, 2022, 10:06:52 AM
    epiphany, perhaps we're referring to 2 different women.  There is a real nun there who came after Debbie.  I'm referring to the hermit.  I'm surprised she hasn't left yet.  Her MO is to stay, then leave for some convent, then come back to leave again for another convent & return in her made-up 'habit'.  This went on for years.

    Matthew, OLHC is a mere pin prick in the map of CA.  CA is a beautiful state, large enough to be a nation, with everything going for it - miles of seashore, mountains, deserts, cities, wide open spaces, farms, etc. etc.  There are many beautiful SSPX churches & also Mel Gibson's beautiful church with a priest to say the TLM.  To equate CA with OLHC is a stretch as many other states have their weirdos too.
    Sister A is a carmelite hermit.  She is older and in very ill health.  She is VERY poor, many days going without food and shelter.  She has no vehicle.

    If you have extra charity to go around, I encourage you to seek her out and help her. She is a wonderful nun, if you take the time to get to know her.  

    She was treated very poorly by Fr. Perez.  Fr. Sretenovic treated her well.  Fr. Starbuck treated her well for a while until he told her to never come back or the police would be called.

    You are flat out wrong about her convent travels. I encourage you to stop this detraction against her.

    OLHC is not a pinprick in the Traditional Catholic map of CA.... Fr. Schell is THE reason there are so many mass options within close proximity in S. Cal, for it seems to be the policy of all chapels to set up operations near an existing chapel.

    Every traditional Catholic in S. Cal should thank and pray for Fr. Schell every day.  Without him, you likely wouldn't have mass.
    God bless Fr. Schell.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #310 on: January 20, 2022, 10:29:17 AM »
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    • St. Dominic's Chapel Sunday Bulletin - January 23, 2022
                                         Father Cedrick Starbuck
                                                        


    The interest, devotion and love shown to Father Starbuck at St. Dominic's Chapel has been manifested by the full capacity attendance at all Sunday's Masses.  It is recommended to come early as seating is quickly filled.  As always, the rosary is said before each Mass. As always, Father Starbuck will be hearing confessions before all Masses, continuing his 15-year tradition/history (previously at OLHC and now at St. Dominic's Chapel) of his continuing commitment and self-giving by hearing confessions before all Masses.

    The Mass schedule for January 21st - January 23rd is as follows:

    Friday: There is NO Mass this Friday due to parking restrictions
    Saturday: 8:30 a.m.
    Sunday:  7:30 a.m., 9:30 a.m. (NO 12:00 p.m. Mass today)

    Please pray for Father Starbuck that God will strengthen him. We are asked to humbly examine our conscious and show our appreciation and gratitude to Father by supporting him in his time of financial need for the sacrifices he is making to God... for us. Please be generous.  Thank you.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #311 on: January 20, 2022, 10:37:44 AM »
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    • St. Dominic's Chapel Sunday Bulletin - January 23, 2022
                                                                  (PAGE 2)


    TO THOSE WHO WISH TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT FATHER STARBUCK HAD BEEN ABANDONED, BETRAYED AND LEFT "HIGH & DRY" WITHOUT FUNDS NEARLY OVERNIGHT  - TWO DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS - BY THOSE IN CHARGE ("THE BOARD" OF OUR LADY HELP OF CHRISTIANS) BY THEM ORDERING HIM (AFTER 15 YEARS OF FAITHFULLY SERVING OLHC BY HIM PERFORMING HIS PRIESTLY DUTIES, I.E., SAYING MASS, HEARING CONFESSIONS, BAPTISMS, ANOINTING OF THE SICK, FUNERALS, ETC. TO NOT COME ON THE PROPERTY OF OLHC AGAIN OR "WE WILL HAVE YOU ARRESTED FOR TRESPASSING" BECAUSE OF THE CONTENTS OF A SERMON HE GAVE REGARDING THE VETTING OF "FR." MICHAEL WIEST AT OLHC!  THE COMPLETE SERMON CAN BE READ ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE THREAD " OLHC LAYPERSONS ATTEMPTING TO TAKE OVER CHAPEL CENSOR FR. STARBUCK'S SERMON" OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon

    GENEROUS FUNDS IS URGENTLY NEEDED FOR FATHER IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN HIMSELF GOING FORWARD IN HIS QUEST AND COMMITMENT TO FAITHFULLY SAY THE PRE1962 LATIN MASS AT HIS NEW ST. DOMINIC'S CHAPEL!

    FATHER HAS MANY NEEDS FOR FUNDS WHICH INCLUDE FOOD AND VERY URGENTLY FATHER CANNOT AFFORD AND DOES NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE! THIS PUTS FATHER IN A VERY DIRE EMERGENCY SITUATION IF HE WERE TO (GOD FORBID) GET SICK!

    AS THE AUTHOR OF THIS THREAD (SUPPORTFRSTARBUCK) FATHER HAS NO IDEA THAT I'M MAKING THIS PLEA FOR HIM. IN FACT, FATHER DOESN'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF, SO I'M HOPING FATHER DOES NOT GET DISAPPOINTED IN ME FOR THIS PLEA!

    FATHER WROTE:  "Additionally, I do know that the board is considering (interviewing) priests who celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Roman Missal. I want to say that it has been our position that this Missal is theologically inadequate (if not modernistic). Fr. Perez vehemently rejected the 1962 Roman Missal. Moreover, it is likely to be problematic to our public celebration of Mass in this church."

    SO FATHER IS A FAITHFUL RARE PRIEST TO THE PRE1962 MISSAL. SO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR LOVES FATHER DEARLY FOR THIS "PASSION" HE SUFFERED AT THE HANDS OF OLHC CHAPEL THESE LAST FEW MONTHS.  HE GAVE OF HIS BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS.

    I ASK THAT YOU LOOK INTO YOUR HEARTS AND FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT FATHER STARBUCK FINANCIALLY IN WHATEVER WAY GOD PROMPTS YOU BY THE INDWELLING OF THE HOLY GHOST WITHIN YOU.  GOD WILL REWARD YOU FOR HELPING THIS VERY HOLY HUMBLE PRIEST OF CHRIST!  HERE IS FATHER'S POST OFFICE BOX. THANK YOU.

    FATHER CEDRICK STARBUCK
    P.O.B. 427
    TUSTIN, CA 92781








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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #312 on: January 20, 2022, 10:41:25 AM »
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    • AGIN!  i AM TERRIBLY SORRY ABOUT THE UNINTENDED VERY LARGE FONT OF THE PREVIOUS POST.  I CANT BELIEVE IT.  I THINK I WAS PLAYING WITH THE FONT SIZE... BUT I DIDN'T INTENDED IT TO BE IN NO WAY THIS LARGE.  SORRY.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
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                                                       St. Dominic's Chapel Sunday Bulletin - January 23, 2022
                                                                                      (PAGE 2)


    TO THOSE WHO WISH TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT FATHER STARBUCK HAD BEEN ABANDONED, BETRAYED AND LEFT "HIGH & DRY" WITHOUT FUNDS NEARLY OVERNIGHT  - TWO DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS - BY THOSE IN CHARGE ("THE BOARD" OF OUR LADY HELP OF CHRISTIANS) BY THEM ORDERING HIM (AFTER 15 YEARS OF FAITHFULLY SERVING OLHC BY HIM PERFORMING HIS PRIESTLY DUTIES, I.E., SAYING MASS, HEARING CONFESSIONS, BAPTISMS, ANOINTING OF THE SICK, FUNERALS, ETC. TO NOT COME ON THE PROPERTY OF OLHC AGAIN OR "WE WILL HAVE YOU ARRESTED FOR TRESPASSING" BECAUSE OF THE CONTENTS OF A SERMON HE GAVE REGARDING THE VETTING OF "FR." MICHAEL WIEST AT OLHC!

    THE COMPLETE SERMON CAN BE READ ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE THREAD " OLHC LAYPERSONS ATTEMPTING TO TAKE OVER CHAPEL CENSOR FR. STARBUCK'S SERMON" OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon

    GENEROUS FUNDS IS URGENTLY NEEDED FOR FATHER IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN HIMSELF GOING FORWARD IN HIS QUEST AND COMMITMENT TO FAITHFULLY SAY THE PRE1962 LATIN MASS AT HIS NEW ST. DOMINIC'S CHAPEL!

    FATHER HAS MANY NEEDS FOR FUNDS WHICH INCLUDE FOOD AND VERY URGENTLY FATHER CANNOT AFFORD AND DOES NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE! THIS PUTS FATHER IN A VERY DIRE EMERGENCY SITUATION IF HE WERE TO (GOD FORBID) GET SICK!

    AS THE AUTHOR OF THIS THREAD (SUPPORTFRSTARBUCK) FATHER HAS NO IDEA THAT I'M MAKING THIS PLEA FOR HIM. IN FACT, FATHER DOESN'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF, SO I'M HOPING FATHER DOES NOT GET DISAPPOINTED IN ME FOR THIS PLEA!

    FATHER WROTE:  "Additionally, I do know that the board is considering (interviewing) priests who celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Roman Missal. I want to say that it has been our position that this Missal is theologically inadequate (if not modernistic). Fr. Perez vehemently rejected the 1962 Roman Missal. Moreover, it is likely to be problematic to our public celebration of Mass in this church."

    SO FATHER IS A FAITHFUL RARE PRIEST TO THE PRE1962 MISSAL. SO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR LOVES FATHER DEARLY FOR THIS "PASSION" HE SUFFERED AT THE HANDS OF OLHC CHAPEL THESE LAST FEW MONTHS.  HE GAVE OF HIS BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS.

    I ASK THAT YOU LOOK INTO YOUR HEARTS AND FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT FATHER STARBUCK FINANCIALLY IN WHATEVER WAY GOD PROMPTS YOU BY THE INDWELLING OF THE HOLY GHOST WITHIN YOU.  GOD WILL REWARD YOU FOR HELPING THIS VERY HOLY HUMBLE PRIEST OF CHRIST!  HERE IS FATHER'S POST OFFICE BOX. THANK YOU.

    FATHER CEDRICK STARBUCK
    P.O.B. 427
    TUSTIN, CA 92781









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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #314 on: January 20, 2022, 11:24:46 AM »
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    • Quote from: SupportFrStarbuck on January 20, 2022, 11:02:30 AM
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                                                      St. Dominic's Chapel Sunday Bulletin - January 23, 2022
                                                                                      (PAGE 2)


    TO THOSE WHO WISH TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT FATHER STARBUCK HAD BEEN ABANDONED, BETRAYED AND LEFT "HIGH & DRY" WITHOUT FUNDS NEARLY OVERNIGHT  - TWO DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS - BY THOSE IN CHARGE ("THE BOARD" OF OUR LADY HELP OF CHRISTIANS) BY THEM ORDERING HIM (AFTER 15 YEARS OF FAITHFULLY SERVING OLHC BY HIM PERFORMING HIS PRIESTLY DUTIES, I.E., SAYING MASS, HEARING CONFESSIONS, BAPTISMS, ANOINTING OF THE SICK, FUNERALS, ETC. TO NOT COME ON THE PROPERTY OF OLHC AGAIN OR "WE WILL HAVE YOU ARRESTED FOR TRESPASSING" BECAUSE OF THE CONTENTS OF A SERMON HE GAVE REGARDING THE VETTING OF "FR." MICHAEL WIEST AT OLHC!

    THE COMPLETE SERMON CAN BE READ ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE THREAD " OLHC LAYPERSONS ATTEMPTING TO TAKE OVER CHAPEL CENSOR FR. STARBUCK'S SERMON" OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon

    GENEROUS FUNDS IS URGENTLY NEEDED FOR FATHER IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN HIMSELF GOING FORWARD IN HIS QUEST AND COMMITMENT TO FAITHFULLY SAY THE PRE1962 LATIN MASS AT HIS NEW ST. DOMINIC'S CHAPEL!

    FATHER HAS MANY NEEDS FOR FUNDS WHICH INCLUDE FOOD AND VERY URGENTLY FATHER CANNOT AFFORD AND DOES NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE! THIS PUTS FATHER IN A VERY DIRE EMERGENCY SITUATION IF HE WERE TO (GOD FORBID) GET SICK!

    AS THE AUTHOR OF THIS THREAD (SUPPORTFRSTARBUCK) FATHER HAS NO IDEA THAT I'M MAKING THIS PLEA FOR HIM. IN FACT, FATHER DOESN'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF, SO I'M HOPING FATHER DOES NOT GET DISAPPOINTED IN ME FOR THIS PLEA!

    FATHER WROTE:  "Additionally, I do know that the board is considering (interviewing) priests who celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Roman Missal. I want to say that it has been our position that this Missal is theologically inadequate (if not modernistic). Fr. Perez vehemently rejected the 1962 Roman Missal. Moreover, it is likely to be problematic to our public celebration of Mass in this church."

    SO FATHER IS A FAITHFUL RARE PRIEST TO THE PRE1962 MISSAL. SO OUR LORD AND SAVIOR LOVES FATHER DEARLY FOR THIS "PASSION" HE SUFFERED AT THE HANDS OF OLHC CHAPEL THESE LAST FEW MONTHS.  HE GAVE OF HIS BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS.

    I ASK THAT YOU LOOK INTO YOUR HEARTS AND FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT FATHER STARBUCK FINANCIALLY IN WHATEVER WAY GOD PROMPTS YOU BY THE INDWELLING OF THE HOLY GHOST WITHIN YOU.  GOD WILL REWARD YOU FOR HELPING THIS VERY HOLY HUMBLE PRIEST OF CHRIST!  HERE IS FATHER'S POST OFFICE BOX. THANK YOU.

    FATHER CEDRICK STARBUCK
    P.O.B. 427
    TUSTIN, CA 92781
    Dear Support Father Starbuck,
    I realize that your heart is in the right place, however I'm sure you will agree that it's somewhat misleading to put the title   St. Dominic's Chapel Sunday Bulletin - January 23, 2022
    on your own comments. Please clarify this and thank you for your efforts to support Father Starbuck.
    God bless you,
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