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Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #285 on: January 14, 2022, 09:37:00 PM »
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  • While Wiest may have SOME info about him on the internet, he has ZERO public info about him as a priest, outside of videos of Masses at OLHC. The only searchable occurrences of the word "priest" are in these threads on this site. Tracing his 'history', the only thing that can be found is his ownership of antique shops in Michigan featuring Chinese and Buddhist stuff, and something about a possible Buddhist altar in his house. That history goes from about 2008 to at least 2015, and presumedly beyond that. He appeared at OLHC in early 2021. There's also multiple email addresses and physical locations that may or not belong to him. 
    A couple of photos, and that's it.

    At this point I don't know if we'll ever learn the truth. It's up to the chapel board to fix this if it needs fixing. Maybe he's really a priest, the board knows it, and refuses to release any details. It's up to the chapel families who are concerned to demand answers. I'm not a parishioner but as a traditional Catholic who knows people who go there, I'm concerned. 

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #286 on: January 14, 2022, 11:14:57 PM »
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  • While Wiest may have SOME info about him on the internet, he has ZERO public info about him as a priest, outside of videos of Masses at OLHC. The only searchable occurrences of the word "priest" are in these threads on this site. Tracing his 'history', the only thing that can be found is his ownership of antique shops in Michigan featuring Chinese and Buddhist stuff, and something about a possible Buddhist altar in his house. That history goes from about 2008 to at least 2015, and presumedly beyond that. He appeared at OLHC in early 2021. There's also multiple email addresses and physical locations that may or not belong to him.
    A couple of photos, and that's it.

    At this point I don't know if we'll ever learn the truth. It's up to the chapel board to fix this if it needs fixing. Maybe he's really a priest, the board knows it, and refuses to release any details. It's up to the chapel families who are concerned to demand answers. I'm not a parishioner but as a traditional Catholic who knows people who go there, I'm concerned.
    agreed.
    - a priest must have a public life.
    - any priest who won't provide his lineage is a priest to run away from.

    My extended family left OLHC, after having been there 38 years, when Fr. Perez introduced Croisette from the pulpit, failed to mention Croisette was a "deacon" by the hand of "fr./b" Pfeiffer, and then let Croisette distribute Holy Communion.

    It can also be up to concerned Faithful at OLHC to do their due diligence and call CA school authorities for advice on how to proceed regarding Wiest who has not had a background check yet deals with children.

    Maybe also contact old neighbors from his MI days (listed in one of the background check links somewhere here) and ask if they knew anything his being a priest. 

    I contacted all his relatives (listed on that same page) and only one replied: "f*** off!"

    His father, Norman Wiest, is listed.  He is still alive.  Maybe call or write to him?

    EVERY parent of EVERY child at that school should keep their child/children home and EVERY Faithful needs to go elsewhere for sacraments until Wiest's credentials are made public.


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    Subject:   "Epiphany's" response  to this quote:


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     If Fr. Perez were still alive (God rest his soul!) I imagine he would resolve this whole matter posthaste 

    Not sure this is a true statement :
    1. Fr. Perez had ample time to ask Wiest for his papers.
    2. Fr. Perez introduced Croisette as a "deacon" from the pulpit when Fr. Perez knew Croisette received the diaconate from Pfeiffer (which he did not announce from the pulpit), yet Fr. Perez was unsure if Pfeiffer was a bishop or not, referring to him as "Fr/b Pfeiffer".
    3. Fr. Perez allowed Colletti for a long time.


    Absolutely correct "Epiphany!"

    Father Starbuck pleaded with Fr. Perez to have "Fr." Weist vetted!  All the time Weist was here, FATHER PEREZ, DESPITE SOME HALF-HEARTED EFFORT, IN THE END... DID NOTHING TO ENSURE WIEST WAS VETTED, WHY?!!!




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    Wiest's parents are both deceased, refer to the other thread a few pages back. Their estate owns his listed address in Phoenix.

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    Father Starbuck pleaded with Fr. Perez to have "Fr." Weist vetted!  All the time Weist was here, FATHER PEREZ, DESPITE SOME HALF-HEARTED EFFORT, IN THE END... DID NOTHING TO ENSURE WIEST WAS VETTED, WHY?!!!
    Fr. Perez assumed any man who presented himself as a priest WAS a priest until proven otherwise.

    Fr. Perez clearly had little control over the school board, so it seems he would leave the vetting for the school to the school board.


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    It wouldn't be the school board's responsibility to vet a priest.  That would have been Fr. Perez's responsibility.  
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

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    It wouldn't be the school board's responsibility to vet a priest.  That would have been Fr. Perez's responsibility. 
    OLHC isn’t a parish run by a diocese or priestly order, it appears the place is run by a board made up of laypersons. If they hire a priest it would not matter how long he has worked with them, he would not be given the authority to make decisions just because he is a priest.

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    As I understand it, Fr Shell handed the property over to laypersons before he died? If those people own the property, then they would choose the priest that works for them, no? When would an independent priest come and take over a chapel or church already run by others? Just trying to clarify…