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Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #195 on: January 05, 2022, 04:28:26 PM »
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  • The original principal of the school is dead and therefore cannot be thoroughly disgusted with the current board member's behavior.
    It's a good thing Jim doesn't know you are saying he is dead.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #196 on: January 05, 2022, 04:36:44 PM »
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  • I go to the parish and I'm confirming that Fr. Starbuck did in fact refuse to hear someone's confession directly and has stated that he is 'too busy for confessions'.  I'm not out to talk about his faults and shortcomings but am simply confirming that what Mr. Yoder has said. 
    Let's talk about gossip you dimwit. You have NO idea what was in the heart or mind of that Priest, OR any Priest for that matter. He might have been "too busy for confessions" AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME because he had something else he needed to prioritize.

    And since you are posting as "nursemaria" I am going to attack at the jugular. You know very well what a nursing care plan is if in fact you are a nurse. So I need to say absolutely nothing more about how to prioritize work.


    Get behind thee, Satan!


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #197 on: January 05, 2022, 04:38:28 PM »
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  • It's a good thing Jim doesn't know you are saying he is dead.
    See my post to nursemaria.

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #198 on: January 05, 2022, 04:39:19 PM »
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  • Again you are misinformed---Fr. Starbuck has been with the parish for 15 years and there have been numerous instances of him not doing his job.  While you are correct that we are not under a Bishop, you are mistaken in your comment about a chapel.  A church is any place of worship that has a permanent congregation and is run by a pastor or priest. Unlike a church, a chapel is a place of worship that has no pastor or priest and no permanent congregation; it's all about the physical space.  So----we are a church then.  Are you a parishoner?

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #199 on: January 05, 2022, 04:46:18 PM »
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  • Wow---guns blazing there.  I did not, and you're right, cannot judge the heart, mind and intentions of anyone and I'm not.  I'm just stating there have been numerous instances of him not doing his job----not speculating why or what he was thinking or things like that.  I'm not quite sure what a nursing care plan has to do with anything and you're making an assumption that he was prioritizing other things vs his job.  I think adults can have a robust conversation about a controversial topic without either getting personal or calling names.


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #200 on: January 05, 2022, 04:53:51 PM »
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  • Again you are misinformed---Fr. Starbuck has been with the parish for 15 years and there have been numerous instances of him not doing his job.  While you are correct that we are not under a Bishop, you are mistaken in your comment about a chapel.  A church is any place of worship that has a permanent congregation and is run by a pastor or priest. Unlike a church, a chapel is a place of worship that has no pastor or priest and no permanent congregation; it's all about the physical space.  So----we are a church then.  Are you a parishoner?
    Bold is mine. Oh, so now you have left the nursing field and moved into the Priesthood? What makes YOU qualified to judge a Priest, lady?

    And doesn't your CA Nursing Body have a regulation in place about social media postings? Yes, I am sure it does. If you wish to keep your job, you might want to review it. 

    Get behind thee, Satan!

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #201 on: January 05, 2022, 04:54:46 PM »
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  • Well said!  I told myself the same thing which was to let the 'keyboard warriors' wear themselves out but man, it's hard sitting back and only letting one side be told.  Cheers to you!

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #202 on: January 05, 2022, 05:18:34 PM »
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  • Hey there---I was wrong about Mr. Wright.  He is alive and well and I'm totally fine owning up to it when I get my info wrong or mis-speak.


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #203 on: January 05, 2022, 05:32:54 PM »
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  • To: Michael Yoder

    Christ said to Peter "Behind me, Satan!  Because Thou Art A Scandal Unto Me; Because Thou Savourest Not The Things That Are Of God, But The Things Are Of Men " Matthew 16: 23

    After reading your post, I felt a need to take a long hot shower!  Your pompous, distasteful, supercilious, elitist, self-rightous indignant, irreverent, criticism and bashing of Fr. Starbuck militates against the truth we, members of OLHC, seek here by our appropriate questioning of the legitimacy of "Fr." Weist!

    You are a master of deflection and distraction.  You are someone who deflects and ignores the just legitimate concerns of OLHC faithful by your pointless meaningless ramblings.  Who are you and why are you here other than to denigrate our Holy Priest?  I've been a financially supporting member of OLHC for 16 years!  Are you or have you been a financially supporting member of OLHC and how long have you been here? Or are you an outsider or a member of "The Board" who has been persecuting and vilifying Our Holy Priest who is our consecrated sacred representative of Christ?

    You wrote:  "Can someone explain how this will end up in court and what basis has anyone a claim?"  Really?!  Where have you been?  Oh... wait.  You're a "newbie" here and you obviously haven't taken the time to read the legitimate concerns expressed in previous postings here.

    You are so very troubled and critical of Fr. Starbuck and your erroneously fabricated shortcomings of him not being available for confession and not preparing his sermons.  I ask myself "What planet are you from?" What insidious fabricated lies you are spreading?  I've been here for 16 years and Father. is always 95.9% of the time available for confessions before and after Masses.  In addition, he is constantly pressed for his time/attention all Sunday mornings by the OLHC faithful.

    If he is rarely at times pressed for time for confession its because he is occupied by other responsibilities like getting ready to say Mass!  it is not my place to uncharitably and critically judge him but give him the benefit of the doubt because of his Christ-like good will, warmth, earnestness sincerity and love for the faithful!

    He had maintained all alone the cohesion of this chapel the last couple of weeks!  How dare you question his integrity, honesty and noble faithful adherence to his responsibilities here at the chapel... and to God!

    How about these legitimate concerns/questions we have of "Fr." Weise?

    1) As previously noted in these postings,  He ("Fr." Wiest) requested to work with altar boys alone, unlike other priests who are cautious and always invite the adult altar servers and home-school mothers or parents to attend, and are careful to avoid being alone with any minor child.  At this point it was discovered that no such person as Father Michael Wiest had ever existed. Since state law requires that any adult who works with children must submit their fingerprints and drivers license to the state to send on to the DOJ, this was requested of him and he ("Fr." Wiest) adamantly refused!!  Why does this not trouble you, "Yoder?"

    2)  How about the fact that anyone can do a search on Google, or any other search engine for the name "Michael Wiest or Weist" and there is absolutely NO INFORMATION AT ALL THAT THIS PERSON EXISTS!? WHY IS THAT?  In fact, there was a background check done on one of the formal background checking services (Truthfinders) and THERE IS NO INFORMATION AT ALL THAT THIS PERSON EXISTS!?  I know for a fact and have been told from reputable sources that if a person does not want his name and past criminal and or sɛҳuąƖ proclivities revealed in any background check, one can pay handsomely to have his entire background history/name totally erased from the internet including ones history from ALL background checking companies!  Isn't this cause for concern?  Why does this not trouble you, "Yoder?"

    You wrote:  "I have to wonder why Fr. Starbuck did not speak with Monsignor Perez in the 6-7 months before the Monsignor died about Fr. Wiest. Why was nothing done?"  Answer:  Your wrong!  The truth is Fr. Starbuck pressed Father Perez many many times to have Fr. Wiest vetted.  Despite Fr. Starbucks serious concerns and repeatedly pressing the issue -  IT WAS NOT DONE!  I ask myself, considering the seriousness of the matter "WHY WAS NO ACTION TAKEN AND THE VETTING NOT DONE? AGAIN, THIS DESPITE THE FACT THAT FR. STARBUCK REPEATEDLY PRESSED THE ISSUE?" Why does this not trouble you, "Yoder?"

    One may ask if Father Starbuck may have been "hard on the case of . . ."  a person who may or may not be a priest.
    Please keep in mind the following:

    "For well over a year, members of the chapel went to confession to, received Holy Communion from and entertained in our homes a man who, according to public records, (Father Colletti) was a known pedophile who had been told that in order to keep his Novus Ordo retirement money he had to agree to be laicized, to never present himself as a priest, and to never again say Mass in public."

    Even after the local Bishop notified chapel members of this horrendous situation, Father Perez did nothing. It was Father Starbuck who obtained the legal facts and told us from the pulpit that Father Colletti was leaving and chapel members would be wise to keep their children away from him. At another Mass on the same day, Father Perez covered up for the predator and said from the pulpit that "Father Colletti had been CALLED BACK to his diocese." This is a lie by omission.

    YOU BEEN TROUBLED BY SO MANY THINGS WITH FATHER STARBUCK... WHY DOES THIS NOT TROUBLE YOU, "YODER?"

    Thank God for Our Champion -- Father Starbuck!  His Intervention Saved Our Chapel From Further Ignominy And Possible Legal/Financial Judgement/Ruin & Loss!

    BY THE WAY, "YODER"  Regarding your remark about "much like the modern lҽϝƚιsƚ media"  I am a veteran and life long conservative who still honors the American Flag and the goodness of our men in the military.  Did you serve in the military?

    AND I do not believe I'm "superior" to other human beings... just a sinner who begs God's mercy when I meet my Savior, Jesus Christ.

    Jesus said:  "Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outide of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.  Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you are like to whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear to men beautiful, but within are full of dead men's bones, and of all filthiness.  Woe you also outwardly indeed appear to men just; but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity."  Matthew: Chap. 23 : 25-28. 

    Holy Mother of God and the Holy Ghost... please come to our aid... that we be washed from our sins by the Most Precious Blood of Our Lord and Savior... Jesus Christ.  Amen

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #204 on: January 05, 2022, 06:05:16 PM »
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  • Hey there---I was wrong about Mr. Wright.  He is alive and well and I'm totally fine owning up to it when I get my info wrong or mis-speak.
    Thank you Maria. Talk to him and listen to what he has to say about the sad situation. Please join us in saying the 54-day Rosary to Our Lady of the Rosary.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #205 on: January 05, 2022, 06:10:18 PM »
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  • Thank you for the good laugh today. I appreciate it.

    This is my name, I do not hide behind a pseudonym. Just to answer your questions, I have been going to OLHC since 2005, my son has been an altar boy through the request of Monsignor Perez since 2006. My son is handicapped so you will know who we are. I have consistently paid my tithings to our parish (chapel) since that time. Nope, I am not on the board and never have been nor will I ever be. I haven't been around the chapel or the school that long and those people of the board were the pioneers with Fr. Schell and Monsignor Perez. I have served in the Marine Corps, I used to be a "conservative," but I have come to believe that conservatives conserve nothing. Does that answer your questions? I will get behind thee if you want I don't mind nor do I mind the interesting posts. It doesn't rile me up only when good people are besmirched.

    May God bless you!


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #206 on: January 05, 2022, 07:53:42 PM »
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  • I'm not a parishioner but do know several people who frequent the chapel for Mass. I myself attended Mass there for a time some years ago. I knew Fr. Perez personally and am still grieving over his sudden death. It's an enormous loss.

    Now, the point of this post: it's a huge red flag to me when the good Fr. Starbuck is suddenly given the boot by some board members after detailing his legitimate and important concerns over the lack of priestly bonafides from "Fr." Wiest and the seeming resistance of said person to reveal his background. After 15 years of faithful service, he's simply evicted and told never to return.
    There's no mystery of Fr. Starbuck's legitimacy as a priest. It's public record. There is an obvious mystery about Wiest, and he needs to clear it up pronto. If the board is looking the other way then shame on them. How does one go from the owner of an antique shop in Michigan to a traditional Catholic priest in just a few years, with no known history of seminary or ordination?
    It's a simple matter to clear this up.

    Who, by the way, is the new priest who can be seen on the recent videos? Fr. Alphonsus? I understand he's helping there now.

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #207 on: January 06, 2022, 10:54:55 AM »
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  • I'm not a parishioner but do know several people who frequent the chapel for Mass. I myself attended Mass there for a time some years ago. I knew Fr. Perez personally and am still grieving over his sudden death. It's an enormous loss.

    Now, the point of this post: it's a huge red flag to me when the good Fr. Starbuck is suddenly given the boot by some board members after detailing his legitimate and important concerns over the lack of priestly bonafides from "Fr." Wiest and the seeming resistance of said person to reveal his background. After 15 years of faithful service, he's simply evicted and told never to return.
    There's no mystery of Fr. Starbuck's legitimacy as a priest. It's public record. There is an obvious mystery about Wiest, and he needs to clear it up pronto. If the board is looking the other way then shame on them. How does one go from the owner of an antique shop in Michigan to a traditional Catholic priest in just a few years, with no known history of seminary or ordination?
    It's a simple matter to clear this up.

    Who, by the way, is the new priest who can be seen on the recent videos? Fr. Alphonsus? I understand he's helping there now.
    H Pre 1962,
    Fr. Alphonsus is SSPX and temporarily filling in, using of course the 1962 missal.

    If your name reflects your desire for the pre-1962 Mass, that is what you will find at Father Starbuck's chapel, just as we have always previously had at OLHC.

    Please email Father Starbuck for his Mass schedule. And please joining us in praying the 54-day Rosary to Our Lady of the Rosary for Father Starbuck's protection and guidance, and for the rot to be rooted out of OLHC.
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #208 on: January 06, 2022, 03:12:36 PM »
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  • Hi.  This forum is the only way I have been able to learn what has been going on at OLHC.  I was the last penitent to have Fr. Starbuck hear my confession.  I was next in line when the usher got in front of me and said he had to be next.  I thought it was an emergency situation with a parishioner.  I then went in and I could tell by Father's demeanor that something had happened.  After giving me my penance he told me he would not be hearing any more confessions. 

    During the homily it was difficult to hear it all as the mic was off.  I saw him after Mass and we asked him if he were leaving and his answer indicated he would stay as long as he could and he then blessed our articles.  That was the last contact  Thanks for the posting of his homily as it cleared up our questions.  I've asked a few email questions of the Church Lady and she indicates she doesn't know the answers.

    Do you have Fr. Starbuck's email.  He is no longer on the bulletin?  I think Tustin is too far for me, but I would like to know where he is saying Mass.

    Thank you and many Epiphany blessings.

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #209 on: January 06, 2022, 07:17:11 PM »
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  • Can someone explain how this will end up in court and on what basis has anyone a claim?
    I was thinking along the lines of parents being angry that a man of dubious provenance was loved to be alone with their sons.