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Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #180 on: January 04, 2022, 12:08:54 PM »
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  • Thorn, Instead of spell checking and providing dictionary assistance and playing the "Gotcha" game of correcting misspelled words, etc., perhaps you should pay more attention to the facts of this matter that you are obviously being oblivious to and not questioning Wiest's claim that he is a "priest?" Wiest continues to this day to not address and reveal any information at all about himself as requested by Father Starbuck (AND AN EVER INCREASING NUMBER OF FAITHFUL HERE AT OLHC) as outlined in the first page of this thread.  Did you miss this?

    We here at OLHC demand and we will not be satisfied until this individual reveals his past public life!  A legitimate question posed here is what happens, for argument's sake, in the end if it is revealed (God forbid) that he is not a priest!?  What kind of outraged serious legal ramifications and liability OLHC and "The Board" would face if OLHC faithful learn that we have been going to confession revealing our sins to an imposter and also believing that we have been receiving "communion" from a "priest?"  What if The Board might have known about this all along!? Why hasn't The Board insisted that he be properly vetted?  What are they hiding?  This total lack of transparency should be a "red flag" to any of the OLHC  faithful's consideration whether we are being told the truth or not!  Therefore, WE, OLHC faithful have a right and demand to make known:

    1. A criminal background check with ID, performed by a reputable third party, meeting state compliancy.
    Also, the background check that I (Father) am requesting is not just a clearance check. It must consist of a positive trace of the person’s history.

    2. References.

    3. A chronological work history.

    4. Proof of ordination. And I want to know the ordaining bishop, seminary, and formational contacts.

    BTW, Thorn... What exactly are you "missing" regarding these above mentioned questions/facts outlined here numerous times throughout this thread and your claim "that you must have missed 'the rest of the story?'"
    Do you get it now?


    Blessed Mother and the Holy Ghost... please come to our aid... that we be washed from our sins by the Most Precious Blood of Our Lord and Savior... Jesus Christ.  Amen

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #181 on: January 04, 2022, 04:58:04 PM »
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  • I don't know what half dozen threads you're talking about.  This is the only one I've followed.  And you think that these intelligent Catholics would be taken in by a phony priest?  It just doesn't make sense.  I must have missed 'the rest of the story'.
    Yes, You have missed 'the rest of the story'.
    Go to the top of this page. Third from left after HOME and Help, you will see Search. Click on that, then write Wiest in the little box that appears then GO or Search. The threads of which I spoke will pop up. Then do the same with Weist.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #182 on: January 04, 2022, 05:42:00 PM »
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  • So from what I can gather here and elsewhere, Fr. Starbuck has been unceremoniously kicked out of his parish by school board members and threatened with charges of trespassing if he returns? Is this true?! If true, this is horrible!!

    Okay, my imagination tends to run a little wild sometimes, but could it be that someone(s) want to get rid of him because he is hard on the case of Fr. Wiest and his public history as a priest? Who are the priests staffing the chapel now? They have three Sunday Masses on their calendar. 

    (I did not put "Fr." in parenthesis only because he deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point, but there are grave questions surrounding Wiest's biography as docuмented here.)


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #183 on: January 04, 2022, 06:26:14 PM »
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  •  could it be that someone(s) want to get rid of him because he is hard on the case of Fr. Wiest and his public history as a priest?
    You ask if Father Starbuck may have been "hard on the case of . . ."  a person who may or may not be a priest.

    Please keep in mind the following:
    For well over a year, members of the chapel went to confession to, received Holy Communion from and entertained in our homes a man who, according to public records, was a known pedophile who had been told that in order to keep his Novus Ordo retirement money he had to agree to be laicized, to never present himself as a priest, and to never again say Mass in public.

    Even after the local Bishop notified chapel members of this horrendous situation, Father Perez did nothing. It was Father Starbuck who obtained the legal facts and told us from the pulpit that Father Colletti was leaving and chapel members would be wise to keep their children away from him. At another Mass on the same day, Father Perez covered up for the predator and said from the pulpit that "Father Colletti had been CALLED BACK to his diocese." This is an lie by omission. Thank God for Father Starbuck.

    Let us briefly mention the fake nun who Father Perez asked Father Starbuck to take care of, and the fake Pfeiffer priest who the chapel members told Father Perez to get rid of.

    Fast forward to January 2021. "Fr." Wiest shows up and claims he met Father Perez 30 years ago in Rome when he was a young seminarian and had nowhere to stay and Father Perez put him up for a period of time. Then he changed his story from Rome to a small town outside of Florence and said he and three other seminarians decided to go to Slovakia and on the way they stopped at Christ the King Seminary and Father Perez allowed them to spend ONE night. The town is 30 minutes East of Florence and NOT on the way to Slovakia. Why did Wiest change his story? He contradicted himself publicly from the pulpit.

    He also contradicted himself publicly from the pulpit when he said he was 48 no 58.

    He also contradicted himself publicly from the pulpit when he said he had testicular cancer in his last year of high school and recovered completely. Then he said he had testicular cancer in his last year of law school at Yale and recovered completely. These conflicting stories were recorded.

    Then he requested to work with altar boys alone, unlike the other priests who are cautious and always invite the adult altar servers and home-school mothers or parents to attend, and are careful to avoid being alone with any minor child.

    At this point it was discovered that no such person as Father Michael Wiest had ever existed. Since state law requires that any adult who works with children must submit their fingerprints and drivers license to the state to send on to the DOJ, this was requested of him and he adamantly  refused.

    Soon after that, Father Perez asked Father Starbuck to take up the problem with the four persons on the school board and Father did as he had been instructed and three of the four members had a conniption fit.

    Not content to simply follow the law and protect our children, the school board and Wiest set out to destroy Father Starbuck. 

    It does not make sense, just as the Great Covid Reset does not make sense. Both the micro problem and the macro problem ONLY make sense when we realize that evil is involved.

    Please join us in saying the 54-day Rosary to Our Lady of the Rosary for the protection and guidance of Father Starbuck and for the rot to be rooted out of the chapel. Our official start date was the Feast of the Circuмcision, but if you have not yet joined us, please consider doing so.

    Father Starbuck now has Masses elsewhere, two Masses on Sundays with standing room only and this week also Thursday, first Friday and first Saturday.
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #184 on: January 04, 2022, 06:27:19 PM »
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  • To:  "Pre1962"

    YES! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED!  After 15 years of saying Mass, hearing Confessions, Baptisms and Annointings of the Sick and devoting his life to OLHC Father Starbuck was ordered by JOEL IDDINGS (Board Member) to not come to OLHC to say Christmas Masses at all Christmas weekend.  Father was also threatened by this man that if he was to step foot on the property of OLHC HE/JOEL IDDINGS would personally see to it that Father Starbuck would be arrested for trespassing!


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #185 on: January 04, 2022, 07:51:14 PM »
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  •   Is Weist/Wiest/whatever out of the hospital? Does he live on the property? The reputation of the chapel is damaged at this point and this is probably going to end up in court and the school may take a big hit financially but it's best to just clear everything up now instead of dragging it out. 

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #186 on: January 04, 2022, 09:27:56 PM »
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  • Thanks, Nadir, for the instructions.  For some reason this thing has been going on so long that I was thinking it was one long thread.  I went back & reread a thread, but sad to say I still think that there must be more to this saga.  This is my problem:  The board is made up of fairly intelligent & solid Catholics.  So if we from afar know that Weist is a phony why can't they see it? I just don't get it.  If the board were made of people who just converted, then it might make sense.  So what am I missing?  There's got to be a reason that these people can't see what we see.  
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #187 on: January 04, 2022, 09:38:00 PM »
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  • Weist is out of the hospital & back to saying "mass".  The mass is on You Tube & I watched.  He had to sit to give "communion" & he has an oxygen tank by the altar which he uses occasionally.  and lots of people are participating!!  Unbelievable.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #188 on: January 04, 2022, 10:09:27 PM »
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  • Can someone explain how this will end up in court and on what basis has anyone a claim? Fr. Starbuck lives in a house that he doesn't own, he has no contract with OLHC or PPA board. He clearly stated he would not listen to the board as it is composed of laypeople and that he would not work under any other priest. In the grievance talk of two weeks ago Fr. Starbuck then brought up Fr. Wiest and talked about him and that an "investigator" investigated Fr. Wiest for him. He spoke about a serious topic where only one side was presented and no opportunity for any other side to be given (much like the modern leftist media) and then it is called censorship to prevent the scandal repeating. Again, this was more appropriate topic for a meeting with the board or with the Monsignor, but that was not done. Instead, division and scandal was introduced just before Christmas and during the time of our mourning for our pastor.

    I have to wonder why Fr. Starbuck did not speak with Monsignor Perez in the 6-7 months before the Monsignor died about Fr. Wiest. Why was nothing done? Is this a lapse of judgment on Fr. Starbuck or has the insinuation campaign begun against Monsignor Perez? I know that Fr. Starbuck was often very, very busy, so busy that many times he did not have time to compose a sermon for Sunday or so busy that there was no time for confessions. I have to assume that Monsignor Perez had plenty of time on his hands, even though he was the pastor and responsible for many things, but he had time for sermons and confessions.

    I have to wonder why it seems that only one side appears here and often the one side seems to be saying identically the same thing as if it were the same person writing. But that wouldn't happen would it? A lot of talk has been going on and does anyone notice that it appears to be only one side? Does anyone ask why? Has anyone sought the other side? Has anyone spoken to the "evil" board and that "evil" Joel Iddings? No? I guess you have all the truth and all the charity here. So much charity that whoever keeps repeating the names using a tactic the Left likes to use called 'doxxing'. It is sad, very sad. However, there is one truth though and that is by the fruits you will know them. If OLHC is a den of iniquity, a bunch of money hungry, power grubbing people it will fail and Cera and Support Fr. Starbuck or the others can gloat and revel in their spiritual superiority, but what happens if it is the other way? 

    I told myself that I would say nothing more and let the discontented wear out their discontent; however, the blackening of good peoples' names could not go unanswered. Again, by their fruits you will know them and we will know the fruits in time.

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #189 on: January 05, 2022, 03:02:00 AM »
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  • Weist is out of the hospital & back to saying "mass".  The mass is on You Tube & I watched. 
    Could you supply a link?
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #190 on: January 05, 2022, 11:16:04 AM »
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  • On the chapel's youtube video page the name of the priest in question is spelled "Weist". I believe his name is actually spelled "Wiest". The "ie" instead of the "ei". This is the Michael Wiest who has been identified from links and photos on the other threads here as running an antique shop in Michigan and owning the Buddhist altar. The same Michael Wiest of which there is ZERO public history as an ordained Catholic priest before arriving at OLHC. The who, where, and when of his ordination really needs to be known to all in order that these questions and doubts be put to rest. This is not "attacking a person" or any such thing. It's basic public knowledge that parishioners need to know as this person is saying Mass and hearing confessions. Why there should be any resistance to this is mind boggling. I wouldn't want a fake priest to be hearing my confession and pretending to absolve me. What is the holdup with him providing this vital information? It's also illegal in California to refuse to provide identification for a background check when asking to work with children. 

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSvZT6EWUw-6L21TpMg_YXA/videos


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #191 on: January 05, 2022, 11:19:31 AM »
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  •  I know that Fr. Starbuck was often very, very busy, so busy that many times he did not have time to compose a sermon for Sunday or so busy that there was no time for confessions. .
    Mr. Yoder joined CathInfo on Christmas day and has posted twice, both times attacking good holy Father Starbuck. Hmmm. One has to wonder if Mr. Yoder is one of the three troublemakers on the school board, or perhaps the spouse of the most notorious troublemaker.

    The statement above is a bald-faced lie which is calumny against a good holy priest. Was he busy? Yes he was doing the work of three priests and concerned about the two priests hospitalized and both on ventilators. He was also concerned about the other chapel members who became ill following Octoberfest.

    His sermons have always been strong Catholic teaching which give us food for thought and he always hears confessions. Why would you manufacture this lie that he "did not have time to compose a sermon for Sunday" and another lie that he had "no time for confessions."

    Let us continue our 54-day Rosary to Our Lady of the Rosary for the protection and guidance of Father Starbuck and for the rot to be rooted out of the OLHC chapel.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #192 on: January 05, 2022, 04:14:10 PM »
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  • I go to the parish and I'm confirming that Fr. Starbuck did in fact refuse to hear someone's confession directly and has stated that he is 'too busy for confessions'.  I'm not out to talk about his faults and shortcomings but am simply confirming that what Mr. Yoder has said.  

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #193 on: January 05, 2022, 04:18:38 PM »
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  • The original principal of the school is dead and therefore cannot be thoroughly disgusted with the current board member's behavior.

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #194 on: January 05, 2022, 04:27:39 PM »
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  • I go to the parish and I'm confirming that Fr. Starbuck did in fact refuse to hear someone's confession directly and has stated that he is 'too busy for confessions'.  I'm not out to talk about his faults and shortcomings but am simply confirming that what Mr. Yoder has said. 
    OLHC is a chapel; it is not a "parish" (which would mean that it would be under a Bishop).

    It looks like you joined CathInfo today and your first post was to bash a good priest.

    If what you say is true: "I'm not out to talk about his faults and shortcomings" then you would have mentioned that this was during the time two of our three priests were hospitalized and on ventilators, and Father Starbuck was doing the work of all three.

    The fact that you failed to mention this brings your motives into question.
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