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Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #90 on: December 24, 2021, 10:41:10 AM »
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  • P.S  I was a member when Fr. Starbuck came & was even there years before.  The fact that he had health problems doesn't detract from his being a good & humble priest.  He only started saying the Mass recently.  That's a fact.  No wonder OLHC is having serious problems with nasty people like you.  btw - was Fr. conditionally ordained?   Calm down, Support!
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #91 on: December 24, 2021, 11:42:34 AM »
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    You wrote:

    "Why is everyone posting that Fr. Starbuck has given 15 years to OLHC?  What was he doing for the first 10 years or so?  He just started saying Mass a few years ago."

    You are not telling the truth!  You lie! Have YOU been here for 15 years?  You wrote:  "He started saying the Mass a few years ago."  This is an Absolute Lie!  Apart from the time that Father was indeed periodically ill for a couple of years the most, Father has been saying Mass, hearing confessions and serving OLHC for 15 years!!

    I know!  I actually have been a member of OLHC for 15 years not the 10 years I originally posted.  I invite any other long time member of OLHC to corroborate my statement of Father's presence here for 15 years!
    You are 100% correct. I've been at the chapel since the 1990s. Father Starbuck was healthy when he arrived, and as you say was ill for less than 2 years, then he fully resumed his service to (what used to be) our chapel. During the time Father Starbuck was ill, he offered his suffering up to Our Lord for the good of the chapel. Those who are Catholic know that such suffering is also service to God.

    This is spiritual warfare.

    Please pray the 54-day Rosary to Our Lady of the Rosary that the rot will be removed from the chapel and for the protection and guidance of Father Starbuck. Please write him a note to let him know you are praying for him.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #92 on: December 24, 2021, 12:35:15 PM »
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  • Why was today's live-streamed 10 a.m. Mass blacked out? Below is the sermon given by Father Starbuck at the 7:30 Mass. He also gave it at the 10 a.m. Mass which was to be live-streamed on You Tube.

    However, a layperson attempting to take over the chapel banged on the confessional door and demanded that Father Starbuck "desist" from repeating this sermon. 

    Father did give the sermon, however for unexplained reasons, the sermon was not videotaped and live-streamed as the 10 a.m. Mass always is.  Here is the sermon that the laypersons attempting to take over the chapel do not want you to see.

    19 December 2021
    Sunday
    I had a sermon prepared for this morning. However,there are some matters of business that do not allow ofdeferral. Therefore, I will present that sermon at a later time.
    I have always tried to be truthful and to do the rightthing. And sometimes I have paid a price for that. Butplease know this about me: I will always try to be
    honest with you and to fulfill my commitment to youas a public servant and as a priest. I want to begin by
    saying that these past five weeks of my life have beenlike no others. My vocation is not a job. It demands my every moment, and my every commitment, but this is especially so these past few weeks. And this on top
    of so much recent loss. I have given 15 years now ofmy life to this parish (a quarter of my life), and I washoping to spend the remainder of my years here. I still hope that is possible. Over these years, I have rolled with the punches, & endured intricate/delicate, indeed,often complex situations. I have held my own. But when Fr. Perez died, there was only one person here who would rightfully have pastoral seniority to succeed
    him; and, like it or not, that is me. But shortly after Fr. Perez’s death, a lay board rose up asserting its legal authority to appoint the next “pastor” of this parish. Iwant to be clear in stating that (w/o pointing a finger at them) this is Lutheranism pure and simple. Laypeople could never have the ecclesial power or jurisdiction to appoint or create a pastor. That they may have a legal right is not the same as having a divine right. And while there are fine people on this board who engender
    my complete respect, the cohesion and leadership of this lay incorporation has been problematic. Nor do I see it being able to work. I did make it clear that I will not serve under another “pastor.” At the same time, I have wanted to  facilitate the transition that the church
    is undergoing at least through the end of the year. That has been my desire.
    I do not take my marching orders from laypeople. And I cannot, as a priest, answer to competing voices on a lay board.
    And moreover, as a priest, my credibility, leadership,and moral responsibility could be jeopardized if a
    situation not yet addressed in this parish is allowed to continue. My continuous requests for the vetting of
    priests serving in this parish have not & are not being met. We have had a couple of priests coming through here whose ordination I found questionable
    (based on information that later became available), and we have had at least one priest who had no business being here. Yes, mistakes were made (albeit, not on
    my part), and we should have learned from them. Five years ago, I proposed to Fr. Perez the following specific requirements of any priest serving in this parish. And they are the following:
    1. A criminal background check with ID, performed by a reputable third party, meeting state compliancy.
    Also, the background check that I am requesting is not just a clearance check. It must consist of a positive trace of the person’s history.
    2. References.
    3. A chronological work history.
    4. Proof of ordination. And I want to know the ordaining bishop, seminary, and formational contacts. And just for your information, as a Dominican I
    underwent thorough background checks and continuous vetting over a period of seven years. And I lived under a virtual microscope 24 hours a day during
    that time. Moreover, my background is not hidden. My formation and ordination can be found on the Internet. They are public.

    Of note, a request that I made of Fr. Perez last summer got dragged out, & and was never completed. And if I
    do not say something now, this situation will never be addressed. Let me ask a question. If you hired someone to work on your house, would you not want
    references? Or if you sent your children to a day care center, would you not want references? This is the house of God. Can we be any less responsible?
    So here is what I am asking: A priest is a public person. Let me repeat that: A priest is a public person. Therefore, with due respect to all parties involved & a presumption of good will on the part of
    all, I am asking that the vetting of Fr. Wiest be completed, and that the results of that vetting process, including proof of ordination be made public. The
    problem is that there is no public life of any Fr.Michael Wiest (I know this in part, not just because it cannot be found on the internet, but because I actually had a professional investigator call me one day to inform me of this. He was completely puzzled.) there is no public life of any Fr. Michael Wiest who was
    born in Chicago, ordained in Italy, and who served in any parish or diocese during these past 30 or so years.
    There is no public record of ministry. There is norecord of pastoral assignments. In short, there is no
    such public person. And the fact that there is no such public person does not just amount to an absence of information, it amounts to a fact that demands explanation. It is a problem. And for this reason many in this parish question his ordination. For his own benefit we need to answer this  question. And we need to know the credentials of any priest serving in
    this parish. That is not asking too much.
    Finally, while I do not acknowledge the ecclesial authority of a lay board, if one is to exist, it must be cohesive, charitable, and committed to the principles of the Catholic faith. And if the parishioners of this church are unhappy with this arrangement, perhaps they need to consider another option, perhaps the appointment of a new board which they feel represents
    them. But with all due respect, I just do not see this lay board being able to resolve effectively the problems this parish faces, or to find a clear path
    forward. And FYI, this lay board represents the interests of the
    school (PPA) and not of the church.
    ===

    Additionally, I do know that the board is considering (interviewing) priests who celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Roman Missal. I want to say that it has been our position that this Missal is theologically inadequate (if not modernistic). Fr. Perez vehemently rejected the 1962 Roman Missal. Moreover, it is likely to be problematic to our public celebration of Mass in this
    church. May I remind you of some of the problems of this Missal (?):
    Revised rite of Holy Week. The famous writer Evelyn Waugh considered the revision of Holy Week to be an extremely disappointing loss. The
    introduction of red on Good Friday and Communion of the faithful were arbitrary and capricious, and miss the
    fundamental (essential) point of the liturgy (i.e., the Mass of the Pre-Sanctified). It omits Second Confiteor.
    It omits numerous octaves, and accordingly significant vigils.
    It omits significant feasts, such as January 1: (the Feast of the Circuмcision). The theological
    significance: Christ is the fulfillment of the law!
    It introduces the Feast of St. Joseph the Worker (as a concession to the tenets of socialism)
    It omits Commemorations.

    The Passion Narrative during Holy Week is considered to be the Gospel reading. A theological fiction.
    Feasts of important saints are haphazardly &arbitrarily moved, making it confusing even to a priest to follow this new ordo.
    Feasts of historically momentous saints are suppressed.
    St. Joseph is introduced to the Canon. Notably: This is the only change to the Canon since the time of St. Gregory the Great. Why such an introduction? And if
    this is admitted, then any change can be made to the Canon of the Mass. And the theological significance: St. Joseph was not a martyr, an exception to the list of those saints who appear in the Canon.
    It is inadequate to argue that there are no doctrinal problems with this Missal, as does the SSPX. It is a deviation from the lex orandi, it is theologically
    inadequate, & it is misguided in numerous respects.
    And even if you believe that the 1962 Roman Missal is okay, how could we serve the needs of this parish in
    requiring people to attend daily Mass with two missals, perhaps not knowing which priest is celebrating that
    day, not to mention the cost to those with less money?

    And finally, finding a priest who observes and understands tradition in the same way as Fr. Perez and myself is a virtually impossible task. You will likely
    either encounter a sedevacantist or a modernist (who says: “Yes I celebrate the traditional ‘extraordinary form of the Roman rite in Latin.”, as if there could be such thing). So I advise a great note of caution in introducing any priest to this parish.
    These are my concerns. You may respond as you see fitting & appropriate. However we proceed going forward, I call for civility & charity, for listening and
    understanding, and for a prayerful and thoughtful approach from all parties involved.
    Finally, while it is not my custom, I am willing to make a transcript of these words available in a PDF file
    for circulation, so that my words are clear for everyone’s understanding, for those who are absent, and for the public record. I do not have the time to
    send this out as a response to every email inquiry. But if someone could assist me in making it available, I am
    glad to provide a PDF file for circulation.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #93 on: December 24, 2021, 12:46:58 PM »
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  • This ^ is font size 2, not font size 7, as in post #1.  This is achieved by merely using Preview and adjusting the font before you press "Post."  The font size option is located in the second capital A within the formatting options above the message field, with an up-and-down red arrow to its left. (The first capital A is the font face or lettering style.)

    Thank you.
    I hit thumbs up.  I meant to click quote.
    I have several times copied something and pasted and reduced the size of the text  only to have it revert to the original size when I posted.  I then tried modifying it a couple of times and it still reverts to the original size.  It doesn't always work with copy and paste, only with what you type.
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #94 on: December 24, 2021, 01:38:24 PM »
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  • Blessed Advent.
    Thank-you, sorry I missed replying to you. To you also, John. I posted Merry Christmas in the event I am not on this forum on Christmas Day. I figured most people here knew it was still Advent, by the way. 



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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #95 on: December 24, 2021, 01:57:28 PM »
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  • You are 100% correct. I've been at the chapel since the 1990s. Father Starbuck was healthy when he arrived, and as you say was ill for less than 2 years, then he fully resumed his service to (what used to be) our chapel. During the time Father Starbuck was ill, he offered his suffering up to Our Lord for the good of the chapel. Those who are Catholic know that such suffering is also service to God.

    This is spiritual warfare.

    Please pray the 54-day Rosary to Our Lady of the Rosary that the rot will be removed from the chapel and for the protection and guidance of Father Starbuck. Please write him a note to let him know you are praying for him.
    I am randomly posting my reply here because I am really fed-up with reading about all the Priest dissing, and all the supposed insiders trying to explain things on here, and hurl mud at each other, on once again, a PUBLICLY READABLE forum board.

    Your chapel has BIG problems. HUGE. Ladies, this is mostly for you, but not exclusively.

    My husband and I were on our way to do a Holy Hour last night and for confessions (there must have been over 60 people in line, so Father must have ended up spending 2 or more hours in the confessional). Anyway, I mentioned to my husband as were driving in, (we have a long drive), "So, I am on this Catholic forum." "Yeah, what about it?" "Well, what would you say or think about people posting about the problems in their parish and talking about the Priests?"

    "They shouldn't be posting anything about their parish. If there are problems, then they need to be discussing things in private and in a boardroom somewhere, and not on some forum." "That's what I thought, and I posted that." "Why, who is posting? Oh let me guess. Is it women posting?" "Yes, mostly."

    "You know, in all my years of doing X and running X, I have had the most problems with women. They were always the ones trying to tell the Priests what to do, criticizing them, stirring up trouble in the parish, stirring up trouble for those going to Mass. They could be so nasty." "Hmmm..." "That's one reason why I shudder when the phone rings and I worry it's A or B. They never stopped criticizing the Priests." "So what should I do to try to stop things?"

    "They are posting this stuff on a public forum where anybody can read it? Well, they could find themselves in hot water or legal trouble." "They have named names and are accusing people of different things." "Like I said, they could find themselves in hot water or legal trouble. Are any men posting things?" "Not as much." "Figures. Just stay away and be glad you don't have to go there or deal with them."


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #96 on: December 24, 2021, 02:08:18 PM »
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  • This ^ is font size 2, not font size 7, as in post #1.  This is achieved by merely using Preview and adjusting the font before you press "Post."  The font size option is located in the second capital A within the formatting options above the message field, with an up-and-down red arrow to its left. (The first capital A is the font face or lettering style.)

    Thank you.
    Thank you Magdala, I sent it on just as I received it from Father Starbuck. I should have changed the font.

    The main point here is that we all need to be praying for Father Starbuck.

    Better yet, join us in saying the 54-day Rosary to Our Lady of the Rosary for the rot to be removed from the chapel and for the protection and guidance of Father Starbuck.

    That seems to be one thing we should all be able to agree on.
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #97 on: December 24, 2021, 02:54:39 PM »
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  • I'm a long-time parish member of OLHC for over 10 years.

    The "Layperson" who violently banged on the door of the confessional while Father was hearing confessions is none other than the usher at the 7:30 a.m. named "Joel."  I don't remember his last name. After interrupting Father DURING CONFESSION, "Joel" fiercely told Father words to the effect of "YOU ARE NOT TO GIVE THAT SERMON AT THE NEXT MASS!  I know that Father was terrorized by this psychological "assault."*  Father actually felt threatened and extremely fearful by this individual's brutal aggression against him.  "Joel" also ripped the mike out of its stand on the pulpit before the 10:00 a.m. Mass so Father would not be able to give this sermon (contained within).  Bravely, Father gave it anyway.



    Oh, how I'd love to take Joel out to the parking lot.... and beat his ass  :fryingpan:

    St. Nicholas beater of heretics, please intercede for it to happen.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #98 on: December 24, 2021, 03:12:18 PM »
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    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #99 on: December 24, 2021, 03:21:47 PM »
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  • Yes, all independent priests are especially vulnerable to demonic attack.


    Speaking from experience, you have a demonic infestation at your chapel.  How many times did Fr. Pfeiffer and his minions visit OLHC ?

    Bp. (Father) Pfeiffer has targeted your chapel.  His Santeria warlock... has targeted your chapel.

    Heed my words, you have a malefice (active curse) operating in the chapel.  And it's been there for some time.

    Father Amorth has lectured on the dangers of malefice and Pfeiferville has been caught red handed practicing it through Santeria.

    Your chapel core members needs to embrace spiritual warfare and find and flush out the malefice(s).  And an exorcism of the property is appropriate.
    Ann
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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #100 on: December 24, 2021, 03:34:15 PM »
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  • Oh, how I'd love to take Joel out to the parking lot.... and beat his ass  :fryingpan:

    St. Nicholas beater of heretics, please intercede for it to happen.

    Where we are, any person banging on any confessional door had better be yelling something like, "fire" or "parishioner is down and doesn't have a pulse and is dying on the floor," or something similar. Otherwise, they are in serious need of help. But I am not saying what kind. 

    If anyone tried to attack a Priest here? I would physically go after them myself. The guy wouldn't walk straight again. I would not think twice about it, or defending the Blessed Sacrament. I would also find some way to rip the tabernacle off the wall in a fire or die trying. 


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #101 on: December 24, 2021, 04:09:08 PM »
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  • I am randomly posting my reply here because I am really fed-up with reading about all the Priest dissing, and all the supposed insiders trying to explain things on here, and hurl mud at each other, on once again, a PUBLICLY READABLE forum board.

    Your chapel has BIG problems. HUGE. Ladies, this is mostly for you, but not exclusively.

    My husband and I were on our way to do a Holy Hour last night and for confessions (there must have been over 60 people in line, so Father must have ended up spending 2 or more hours in the confessional). Anyway, I mentioned to my husband as were driving in, (we have a long drive), "So, I am on this Catholic forum." "Yeah, what about it?" "Well, what would you say or think about people posting about the problems in their parish and talking about the Priests?"

    "They shouldn't be posting anything about their parish. If there are problems, then they need to be discussing things in private and in a boardroom somewhere, and not on some forum." "That's what I thought, and I posted that." "Why, who is posting? Oh let me guess. Is it women posting?" "Yes, mostly."

    "You know, in all my years of doing X and running X, I have had the most problems with women. They were always the ones trying to tell the Priests what to do, criticizing them, stirring up trouble in the parish, stirring up trouble for those going to Mass. They could be so nasty." "Hmmm..." "That's one reason why I shudder when the phone rings and I worry it's A or B. They never stopped criticizing the Priests." "So what should I do to try to stop things?"

    "They are posting this stuff on a public forum where anybody can read it? Well, they could find themselves in hot water or legal trouble." "They have named names and are accusing people of different things." "Like I said, they could find themselves in hot water or legal trouble. Are any men posting things?" "Not as much." "Figures. Just stay away and be glad you don't have to go there or deal with them."

    At this point SIXTEEN MEN have posted as opposed to TEN WOMEN including you.
    I guess as an obedient wife you will be following your husband's direction and we won't be hearing from you again.
    MERRY CHRISTMAS


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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #102 on: December 24, 2021, 04:23:43 PM »
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  • At this point SIXTEEN MEN have posted as opposed to TEN WOMEN including you.
    I guess as an obedient wife you will be following your husband's direction and we won't be hearing from you again.
    MERRY CHRISTMAS
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    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
    « Reply #103 on: December 24, 2021, 07:13:49 PM »
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  • At this point SIXTEEN MEN have posted as opposed to TEN WOMEN including you.
    I guess as an obedient wife you will be following your husband's direction and we won't be hearing from you again.
    MERRY CHRISTMAS

    At this point SIXTEEN MEN have posted as opposed to TEN WOMEN including you.
    I guess as an obedient wife you will be following your husband's direction and we won't be hearing from you again.
    MERRY CHRISTMAS
    Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to you also :-) It's unfortunate that you still don't see what is going on. IF you attend that chapel, you are contributing to the problem, period. If you don't attend that chapel? Then shouldn't you be baking cookies or something? If you can dish it out, then you should be able to take it. Oui?

    My husband's point was mostly about women that stir up the pot. Legally you could be getting into big trouble. But keep going there Betty Crocker, you and your gal-pals (and yes, some of the men) are doing a bang-up job. He was trying to warn from experience, but has no dog in the fight. He feels sorry for all of you. And excuse me if I didn't count the actual number of men versus women. Small potatoes when the principle remains the same.

    This is one reason why I cannot stand working with women, just sayin.' I will take a male boss any day, (unless I am the boss, which I have been). Being on any parish committee, women's group, or board with women is migraine-inducing. Two women is fine, anymore than that is time for Alka-Seltzer.

    We were considering joining a certain parish once. I went around and around listening to a group of ladies that were arguing about how to cut brownies for a funeral reception. One lady was mad that I was wearing "her apron," (without a name on it), that had been handed to me by another lady "in charge." (I hate aprons, but wore it out of courtesy). They then proceeded to argue about slicing the buns, and how much the butter should be melted. They wanted me to join their group. "No thanks, I would rather wash my car." The best part of that women's group is the husband of one of the ladies that makes wicked perogies. YUM!

    I have been surrounded with men the majority of my life, have worked a variety of highly skilled fields with huge responsibilities and have been appreciated for being able to do a job well and without a lot of trouble. I saved a man's life two weeks into a traditionally male-dominated field. He was ever so grateful. I had the respect of every man on that crew from day one or two. I wasn't sitting around on my butt wasting time or talking about getting my nails done. But that's nice once in awhile, too.

    Lives depended on my position. Cattiness, gossip, and "Mrs. knows-what-she-said-he-said" would end up DEAD on the job because they would be too busy yakking and the machinery would be in their path. As just one detail of many, I was running hundreds of dump-trucks a day in and out/on a massive project. I was constantly bothered by a jealous female. Some of the attitudes here remind me of working with them in another field.

    If you have problems in your chapel, then people need to stop posting names, discussing the Priests, and otherwise discussing it. You may find yourself in the centre of a lawsuit or two by your helpfulness. There are things called libel and slander and defamation of character, etc. Those things are very real. It would be a terrible thing to receive a legal letter for Christmas because people that go to Mass there don't know when to leave well enough alone and a number of people are sued. And if the Priest can't easily call 9-11 or needs a panic button, then one should be provided for him. 

    I lurked for almost 2 years on this board, and thought maybe it might be nice to actually sign up. I mentioned it to my husband and he said, "I hope it turns out to be a nice thing for you." "Well, they do have a private women's group, but I probably won't fit in there either. Not interested in discussing baby wipes or spit-up, and I could care less about knitting or swapping granny squares." "Well, darling, I hope for your sake there's some men there that like sports and camping and adventure and outdoor stuff. Otherwise I can't see you lasting too long on there either unless you find that needle in the haystack of a woman that can keep up with you." :-)

    He could care less about my being on here as it has zippo to do with obedience and more to fact that I can't stand being around most Traditional Catholic women because they usually don't do any physical activities or sports after age 20, if that. 

    I have lost count of the number of times I have asked women to go for a walk, go for a bike ride, go skiing, go snowshoeing, go hiking, go camping, etc. "No, I am busy with the parish quilt-a-thon, bake-sale, bazaar, fill-in-the-blank parish thing," "No, I am too old for that," (as they complain about how much weight they have put on and that they can't touch their toes anymore, or can't lose their baby weight after 5, 6, 10 kids--have they tried?) 

    Any women here actually do or like any of the following?: Skiing (both kinds), snowshoeing, ice skating, horseback riding (English and Western), SCUBA diving, aquarium keeping, camping/survival stuff, hiking, walking, swimming, para sailing, water sports, snorkeling, exploring in caves, fixing things, cars, canning, gardening? Those are just a few things. There are other interests also. I gave some in my introduction about domestic things.

    If you do, please let me know, and I may decide to hang around awhile longer. Otherwise, my penance is over for Advent, and this forum has wasted shockingly so much of my time in the short time that I have been here with little return on my investment. (My typing speed is back up there, so that's okay). I have learned a few things political-wise, and a couple of things about the Faith. But I honestly don't know what would keep me here. There is just a lot of weird posts about stuff that really has no business being here, but that's my opinion. 

    I have no interest in spoiling anyone else's time here and am quite happy being the black sheep. I have never been much of a follower and am a natural leader that is much more of a Joan of Arc than a shy daisy. I would happily stop at an accident for you, jumpstart your car, deliver your groceries, climb a ladder to clean your gutters, cook something for you, etc., whatever, but I hate wasting my time reading absolute drivel about parish issues. And no, I don't have to read those posts, but here it is in black and white:

    I will side with the side of a Priest before any lay person, period. Without a Priest, you have no Mass, period. Y'all are cooking your own goose there by chasing away a good number of future Priests that may wish to say Mass, too. ***It will be a sad day if you don't have a Priest for Mass in the near future. Instead of being grateful for having the luxury of the Sacraments, there are too many swelled up with a pride that puts themselves above the office and authority and Holy Orders of the Priesthood.***

    Do you realize that in Canada, there are MANY PEOPLE that cannot get to Mass for Christmas? They don't have any options to choose from, period? Y'all don't know what side your bread is buttered on. I am dead serious. Y'all are acting like a bunch of spoiled brats and ungrateful children!

    I have never heard such sad talk about Priests ministering in a chapel from supposedly Traditional Catholics. (And uncanny, that it happens to be in CA, AGAIN. What, did a bunch of those Trads move from San Jose, Santa Monica or Watsonville to join your chapel? Crazy. I am beginning to think I have actually met some of you in real life! No way do I want to get entangled with those people again. I was much, much younger then, but already had it figured out there was something crazy about their trying to tell a Priest how to run his parish and school!)

    There are also a lot of weird and paranoid posts about other topics, but I will excuse those because of the strange disinformation campaigns going on everywhere and the tendency for some people to be gullible.

    Merry Christmas to all, and have a Wonderful New Year for 2022 should I stop posting in the near future, and you indeed do get your wish. :-)
    God Bless you,
    Anne

    P.S. And I could care less about how many downvotes or thumb-downs or what-not I get by posting this either. Bring it all on! 

     




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    Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
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