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Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #335 on: January 28, 2022, 03:24:50 PM »
OLHC held their meeting last night in the church hall, announcing that they have a letter saying that Wiest was ordained in the North American Old Roman Catholic Church (NAORCC) by Bishop Rematt.

It’s bad enough that the NAORCC is illegitimate, but it’s worse than that. Bishop Rematt’s branch of the Old Catholic Church grew out of a cult called the New Jerusalem Church of the Celestial Messenger which was founded by Giuseppe Maria Abbate, a barber who says that Jesus walked into his barber shop one day and told him that God had chosen him as his Celestial Messenger, ordering him found a new church. Then he claims that Jesus personally ordained him to the priesthood. (Therefore, no papers of ordination.)

Then, he says, God told Abbate that he was born on Mars. After he died at age seven, he went to heaven. However, he only stayed there briefly as God wanted him to save humanity from perdition. Therefore, he was transported to earth and reborn in a family in Isnello. (Reincarnation?)

Abbate “ordained” Schweikert and after Abbate died, Archbishop Schweikert was enthroned in 1968 as the Celestial Messenger’s successor.

Schweikert “ordained” Rematt and in 1988 Schweikert died and was succeeded by Archbishop Rematt.

And Rematt “ordained” Wiest. And the school board has the letter to prove it.

At the meeting no questions were permitted. When people started asking questions, they were told to leave and the lights were turned off. Prior to the abrupt closing of the meeting, it was announced that the son of the board member/ principal was being named as the 5th board member.

P.S. The school board said they asked Wiest for his drivers’ license and he said he lost it.

For details on Wiest’s cult, see:
https://wrldrels.org/2020/05/10/new-jerusalem-church-of-the-celestial-messenger/
So Wiest is not a Catholic priest.
get him out of there  people....

Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #336 on: January 28, 2022, 06:46:28 PM »

Yeah, right.  He can't find his license!

Should be "Red Flag"the  suspicious behavior that the meeting was abruptly ended with the turning out the lights and told the meeting is over obviously some people had questions?  Also wasn't it suspicious that was there was only 6 hours notice of a upcoming meeting at 7:00 p.m. of such a very serious matter involving ALL THE FAITHFUL OF OLHC?

IF we indeed find out that this man is not a priest, shouldn't those of us who trusted in the leadership of OLHC ("The Board) be angry, outraged and horrified to think that we the faithful were unknowingly suckered into this lie? 

What about those of us who went to confession to this individual and to think of the  possibility that this individual might not be a priest?


Shouldn't there be some serious consequences paid by  the ("School Board") and this "Fr." Michael Wiest?  To think that we went to confession to him and it was all a lie!  What about being suckered into believing he was a priest and actually we did not receive the Body and Blood of Christ  (IF TRUE) because he is not a validly ordained priest!  Isn't this in some way criminal and at least grounds for a class action suit from the faithful of OLHC against ("The Board") and Wiest?  Any lawyers here??


Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #337 on: January 30, 2022, 08:37:45 PM »

Father Perez’s death was totally unexpected, and at the time of the writing of this purported letter he would not know if his sister would pre-decease him or not. It makes no sense whatsoever that he would supposedly give only one copy to one person.

If any such letter actually existed, Father Perez would have given a copy to Father Starbuck and  several key members of the parish, but not to the four school board members because that would appear to be an obvious conflict of interest. (Look we found this letter which gives us total control!)

The following have yet to be verified:
Whether this purported "letter" actually exists or not,
whether this purported "letter" was actually written by Father Perez or not,
whether this purported "letter" was ever in the hands of Father Perez's sister or not.
Given the earlier versions of the school board’s stories, strong reasons exist to doubt their veracity.

Cogent arguments, Cera! Thank you.

The "School Board" should be asked to make a copies of this "handwritten letter" and attach it to every OLHC Sunday bulletin to be handed out after Mass to ALL the faithful at the chapel!

THE only way to really find out if this "letter" was actually written by Fr. Perez is to have a forensic handwriting expert analyze it and compare it to ANY previous handwritten examples from Fr. Perez that have nothing to do with "The Board."  Judging by their ongoing and past behavior, there are indeed "strong reasons [that] exist to doubt their veracity."

If "The Board" has indeed nothing to hide, then they should prove that they indeed... have NOTHING TO HIDE!

BTW, it is a "red flag" (IF TRUE) that "The Board" had refused to take questions after the meeting (WHY?). This after the lights were turned out, and the faithful were abruptly told that the meeting had ended!!  If anyone who is reading this and was present at the meeting, please verify that this indeed was what happened?


Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #338 on: January 30, 2022, 09:32:05 PM »

Grace-filled beautiful blessings from God to  Fr. Starbuck today!  A magnificent successful day at Fr. Starbuck's St, Dominic's Chapel.  There were 50 souls at the 7:30 Mass and 65 souls at the 9:30 a.m. Mass.  Almost standing room only!  Father was so pleased.

In addition, today was the first day of the live "feed" on UTube of the Mass entitled "St. Dominic's Chapel (Fr. Cedrik Starbuck). It can be seen anytime now.  As of now, there are 307 views today! A wonderfully successful day for God's servant Fr. Starbuck!

Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #339 on: February 02, 2022, 08:33:19 PM »
are you sure it was Daniel Croisette who was in a suit and tie at Fr Starbuck's mass?
Given that his recent “Masses” can be viewed on 10 Year Old Girl Productions’ YouTube channel, I don’t see how that would be possible.