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Offline Thorn

Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #300 on: January 17, 2022, 04:12:34 PM »
epiphany -  they had a school a long time before they bought the present property.  This property is fairly new for them.  They had a school in various buildings, long before they had this church building. I'm thinking it was in the 70's - or before - when they had a school in a park building in GG.  Where your parents there then?  Were they there when Fr. Perez first came on board?

Do you know Debbie's history?  It goes way back.  Fr. S. may have heard her "final vows",  but he's not a Carmelite so it really means nothing.  After she took final vows, now she's not a Carmelite but just a hermit!!!  I'm telling you, the place is now a circus.  If you're happy with Fr. Starbuck & his chapel, then I would brush the dust from your feet & move on.
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Offline SupportFrStarbuck

Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #301 on: January 17, 2022, 10:03:51 PM »
Epiphany

Thank you for your years at OLHC and thank you for your love for Fr. Schell.  I've been a supporting member of OLHC for 15 years!
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Offline epiphany

Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #302 on: January 17, 2022, 10:17:27 PM »
Quote from: Thorn on January 17, 2022, 04:12:34 PM
epiphany -  they had a school a long time before they bought the present property.  This property is fairly new for them.  They had a school in various buildings, long before they had this church building. I'm thinking it was in the 70's - or before - when they had a school in a park building in GG.  Where your parents there then?  Were they there when Fr. Perez first came on board?

Do you know Debbie's history?  It goes way back.  Fr. S. may have heard her "final vows",  but he's not a Carmelite so it really means nothing.  After she took final vows, now she's not a Carmelite but just a hermit!!!  I'm telling you, the place is now a circus.  If you're happy with Fr. Starbuck & his chapel, then I would brush the dust from your feet & move on.

My family has been with OLHC 38 years, long before Fr. Perez or the school.

Fr. Schell, God rest his soul, was at my parent's house talking to them about the possibility of forming a school long before there was a formal school. 

I know sister's history and you are WAY off base, to the point of causing detraction.  Sister A is a nun, full stop.  She needs prayers. 

FYI, ALL carmelites were hermits when the order began, and it is still an option now.

Fr. Sretenovic wrote his lineage here on CI.  Wiest should do the same, providing copies of docuŠ¼ents, since he has lied in the past, and then show his papers to the entire congregation.
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Offline epiphany

Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #303 on: January 17, 2022, 10:20:39 PM »
Quote from: Thorn on January 16, 2022, 10:54:18 AM
It wouldn't be the school board's responsibility to vet a priest.  That would have been Fr. Perez's responsibility. 
This is partly true.
Fr. Perez should have vetted Wiest to see if he was a priest.
The school board should have done a background check on him to see if he is who he says he is, and to protect the children of the school.
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Offline Matthew

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Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #304 on: January 17, 2022, 10:51:52 PM »
Quote from: epiphany on January 17, 2022, 10:20:39 PM
Fr. Perez should have vetted Wiest to see if he was a priest.
The school board should have done a background check on him to see if he is who he says he is, and to protect the children of the school.

Definitely.

The status of a priest is not his own personal business -- a priest is a public man. His ordination and credentials are a matter of public record and the public good -- much more so than an engineer's credentials as an engineer (degree, grades, certifications, etc.)

Life and death, heaven and hell rest upon a given priest being a valid priest. Hence the reason why ANY layman should be able to look into the ordination of any priest. And the priest should be happy to give his credentials -- unless he has something to hide of course. Beware any priest who gets angry when you ask about his ordination.

Sincerely,
A disinterested third-party who will always be far from California (Deo gratias!)
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