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Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #280 on: January 14, 2022, 10:44:55 AM »
Most ordinary Catholics know what 'discalced' means.  He doesn't.

When Fr. Perez was alive, he did nothing.  What makes you think he'd now do something?

Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #281 on: January 14, 2022, 11:21:57 AM »
this is probably the most likely scenario.
my concern would be who ordained him?
if its someone like rutherford Johnson, that's a no-go (see photo and link below)

 wiest said he was ordained in 1997 in Rome. 

https://www.rutherfordjohnson.org/bio.html

I got a headache trying to get through this. "Archfather" ?? "Prince and Coadjutor of Rome" ??
The biography reads like something out of the Babylon Bee.
He also doesn't look much older than 17.


H.H.E. Archfather Papa Rutherford I (Cardinal Johnson-Ivrea-Italia-Barcelona), PhD, STD, JCD, ALM, FPRS, FRGS is Prince and Coadjutor of Rome in the Anglican Patriarchate, an Old Roman Catholic patriarchate with Anglican patrimony that focuses on its mandate of mission, service, and charity. A successor to the spiritual and temporal legacy of Pope Saint Leo X, the patriarchate is also descended from the ancient Roman Catholic See of Utrecht, which was granted independence by the Holy See in 1145, and from the Catholic See of Canterbury, England. The Patriarchate and the Anglo-Roman Rite represent an intangible cultural heritage.


Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #282 on: January 14, 2022, 03:33:14 PM »
 If Fr. Perez were still alive (God rest his soul!) I imagine he would resolve this whole matter posthaste 
Not sure this is a true statement:
1. Fr. Perez had ample time to ask Wiest for his papers.
2. Fr. Perez introduced Croisette as a "deacon" from the pulpit when Fr. Perez knew Croisette received the diaconate from Pfeiffer (which he did not announce from the pulpit), yet Fr. Perez was unsure if Pfeiffer was a bishop or not, referring to him as "Fr/b Pfeiffer".
3. Fr. Perez allowed Colletti for a long time.

Fr. Perez did not judge men who acted like priests, but he did judge women who acted like nuns.

Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #283 on: January 14, 2022, 04:17:13 PM »
So, as late as 2020 he's in Michigan and (presumedly still?) running a Buddhist antique shop, and NOT in priestly ministry anywhere. Then he shows up at OLHC in early 2021 in full cassock and starts saying Mass etc.
???

Then there's the alleged full Buddhist altar in his home? That's been explored on the other threads.

Putting the very best foot forward (since I don't want to believe he's not a real priest), here's the only scenario I can think of: He was ordained in the 1990's by some bishop somewhere then left without an assignment or a chapel. Or he did minister somewhere for a time. He's been forced to live and work in the world in order to earn a living, perhaps saying Mass privately. He seems to know his way around the altar and the liturgy from what I've heard and seen.

The whole thing doesn't appear to make sense. Docuмenting and making public his history should be an easy task for the school board that appears to be running the show over there. A simple task, to put to rest the mystery and close these threads. If Fr. Perez were still alive (God rest his soul!) I imagine he would resolve this whole matter posthaste and Fr. Starbuck would still be there in Garden Grove.
As much as we would all like to believe that explanation, it does not explain why he repeatedly adamantly refused to show his drivers' license.

Nor does it explain why he refuses to say when, where or by whom he was ordained and in what rite.

Nor does it explain why he changed his name from whatever it was before -- to the name he is using now, Michael Wiest.

We know that not only did "Father Michael Wiest" never exist on paper anywhere, but Mr. Michael Wiest never existed either except for the two items in the Three Rivers newspaper (and information gathered by doing a reverse look-up from the phone number of Mr. Michael Wiest given in one news article.)

In the internet age, it is impossible for someone to have no record of his existence, unless it was deliberately disappeared by an expert.


Re: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon
« Reply #284 on: January 14, 2022, 08:53:06 PM »

In the internet age, it is impossible for someone to have no record of his existence, unless it was deliberately disappeared by an expert.
I beg to differ.
Wiest has SOME info about him on the internet, just not a lot.  Probably with more digging, more could be found.
But you won't find much about me on the internet, so it is possible if you have been careful.