Author Topic: OLHC laypersons attempting to take over chapel CENSOR Fr. Starbuck's sermon (Read 57856 times)

Thorn · « **Reply #165 on:** December 31, 2021, 10:11:07 PM »

I ask because I can't imagine the original Board believing the Wiest is a priest.

SupportFrStarbuck · « **Reply #166 on:** January 03, 2022, 03:54:05 PM »

Catechism of the Catholic Church (2120) - Second Edition

"Sacrilege consists in profaning or treating unworthily the sacraments and other liturgical actions, AS WELL AS PERSONS [more so a consecrated priest - Father Starbuck] things, or places CONSECRATED TO GOD. Sacrilege is a grave sin..."

Thus banging on the confessional door by this aforementioned individual who's identity has been revealed earlier in this blog constitutes a Sacrilege by:

Impeding & Interfering with the Sacrament of Confession

Demanding and frightening the priest to open the confessional door

Deliberately and angrily ordering Father "Not to give that sermon again at the 10:00 Mass"

Impeding and trying to prevent the ability of Father to give his sermon by ripping the mike off the alter podium

Finally, attention should be given to this individual's general behavior and contempt towards Father.
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St. Thomas Aquinas (II-II:81:5; I-II:101:4)

"A thing is called "sacred" through being deputed to the divine worship. Now just as a thing acquires an aspect of good through being deputed to a good end, so does a thing assume a divine character through being deputed to the divine worship, and thus a certain reverence is due to it, which reverence is referred to God. THEREFORE WHATEVER PERTAINS TO IRREVERENCE FOR SACRED THINGS [PARTICULARLY REVERENCE TO A PRIEST!] IS AN INJURY TO GOD, AND COMES UNDER THE HEADING OF SACRILEGE."

Cera · « **Reply #167 on:** January 03, 2022, 04:25:17 PM »

Quote from: Thorn on December 31, 2021, 04:59:05 PM

Besides Joel Iddings, who is on the School Board? Are they the original members? When did Joel come on board?

Some are original. Some are not. The principle of the school who is also on the school board is not an original member. The original principal of the school is thoroughly disgusted with the behavior of three of the four school board members (which includes the current principal).

Thorn · « **Reply #168 on:** January 03, 2022, 04:49:25 PM »

Wouldn't it be considered a sacrilege to allow a man pretending that he's a priest to say "Mass" at the altar?

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #169 on:** January 03, 2022, 04:50:26 PM »

Isn't there only 1 board? And they own ALL the property (i.e. church and school)?

John Felton · « **Reply #170 on:** January 03, 2022, 05:41:32 PM »

Quote from: Cera on January 03, 2022, 04:25:17 PM

Some are original. Some are not. The principle of the school who is also on the school board is not an original member. The original principal of the school is thoroughly disgusted with the behavior of three of the four school board members (which includes the current principal).

So, the Board has 4 members including the principal. We already know Iddings and the principal is Mary Lewis. So, can we figure out who are the remaining members? Wouldn't the original principal you mentioned know the names?

Thorn · « **Reply #171 on:** January 03, 2022, 06:20:40 PM »

She stated that the principal in NOT the original one. Wasn't Mary Lewis the original one?

CatholicAMERICAN · « **Reply #172 on:** January 03, 2022, 07:32:12 PM »

According to the 2020 tax filing for padre Pio academy the board members are:
Joel iddings
Thomas washicko
Manuel Soto
Mary lewis-principle

Thorn · « **Reply #173 on:** January 03, 2022, 09:41:04 PM »

Now I'm really confused. Is it possible that the priest's name is Weist & not Wiest & so Weist is a priest? The Board members are all good strong Catholics except Iddings - I'm not sure of him. I can't imagine them allowing a man who isn't a priest to say Mass. Something is missing in this whole story. It's not making sense.

Nadir · « **Reply #174 on:** January 03, 2022, 10:49:23 PM »

Quote from: Thorn on January 03, 2022, 09:41:04 PM

Now I'm really confused. Is it possible that the priest's name is Weist & not Wiest & so Weist is a priest? The Board members are all good strong Catholics except Iddings - I'm not sure of him. I can't imagine them allowing a man who isn't a priest to say Mass. Something is missing in this whole story. It's not making sense.

Thorn, Whether it is weist or wiest makes little difference to his state in life. Do a search for both names in the CI engine and you will see that this has all been gone through before in at least half a dozen threads.

Thorn · « **Reply #175 on:** January 04, 2022, 06:02:22 AM »

I don't know what half dozen threads you're talking about. This is the only one I've followed. And you think that these intelligent Catholics would be taken in by a phony priest? It just doesn't make sense. I must have missed 'the rest of the story'.

SupportFrStarbuck · « **Reply #176 on:** January 04, 2022, 07:29:01 AM »

To: "Cera" et al.

From: "SupportFrStarbuck"

Thank you for your inciteful postings and yours and everyone's support here for Father Starbuck. You wrote: "The original principal of the school is thoroughly disgusted with the behavior of three of the four school board members (which includes the current principal)."

I ask what is the name of the "Original principal?" If he is indeed "disgusted with the behavior of three of the four school board members" would it not be appropriate to let him know about this site and for him/her, if he/she wished, to let his/her feelings & thoughts be known regarding how Father Starbuck has been sacrilegiously mistreated by the "School Board" in general and in particular "Joel Idding's" sacrilegious assault-like behavior he perpetrated against Fr. Starbuck?

"Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim.

The act required for an assault must be overt. Although words alone are insufficient, they might create an assault when coupled with some action that indicates the ability to carry out the threat. A mere threat to harm is not an assault; however, a threat combined with a raised fist or [viciously banging on the door of a confessional while a priest is inside hearing confession followed by an angry "in your face" confrontation demanding and ordering Father to not repeat his sermon at the next Mass might constitute an assault. This followed by a ripping the mike out of the alter podium stand in order to prevent Father from giving his sermon] might be sufficient grounds for an assault if it causes a reasonable apprehension of harm in the victim."

Legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com

Lastly, it must be note that the confessional is situated in the front and adjacent to the alter a mere 20 feet or so from the Tabernacle of Our Lord and Savior Jesus' presence on the alter of the Blessed Sacrament witnessing this affront to Christ's holy consecrated sacred priest! Thus making Mr. Joel Idding's hostile confrontation with Father even more egregious, scandalous & sacrilegious! This was done while the Church was filling up with the faithful for the next 10:00 a.m. Mass. The obvious intent here was to utterly humiliate and embarrass Father in front of the congregation. What despicable/dishonorable evil-like behavior!

SupportFrStarbuck · « **Reply #177 on:** January 04, 2022, 07:40:20 AM »

To: "Cera" et al.

From: "SupportFrStarbuck"

Thank you for your inciteful postings and yours and everyone's support here for Father Starbuck. You wrote: "The original principal of the school is thoroughly disgusted with the behavior of three of the four school board members (which includes the current principal)."

I ask what is the name of the "Original principal?" If he is indeed "disgusted with the behavior of three of the four school board members" would it not be appropriate to let him know about this site and for him/her, if he/she wished, to let his/her feelings & thoughts be known regarding how Father Starbuck has been sacrilegiously mistreated by the "School Board" in general and in particular "Joel Idding's" sacrilegious assault-like behavior he perpetrated against Fr. Starbuck?

"Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim.

The act required for an assault must be overt. Although words alone are insufficient, they might create an assault when coupled with some action that indicates the ability to carry out the threat. A mere threat to harm is not an assault; however, a threat combined with a raised fist or [viciously banging on the door of a confessional while a priest is inside hearing confession followed by an angry "in your face" confrontation demanding and ordering Father to not repeat his sermon at the next Mass might constitute an assault. This followed by a ripping the mike out of the alter podium stand in order to prevent Father from giving his sermon] might be sufficient grounds for an assault if it causes a reasonable apprehension of harm in the victim."

Legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com

Lastly, it must be note that the confessional is situated in the front and adjacent to the alter a mere 20 feet or so from the Tabernacle of Our Lord and Savior Jesus' presence on the alter of the Blessed Sacrament witnessing this affront to Christ's holy consecrated sacred priest! Thus making Mr. Joel Idding's hostile confrontation with Father even more egregious, scandalous & sacrilegious! This was done while the Church was filling up with the faithful for the next 10:00 a.m. Mass. The obvious intent here was to utterly humiliate and embarrass Father in front of the congregation. What despicable/dishonorable evil-like behavior!

Thorn · « **Reply #178 on:** January 04, 2022, 07:42:43 AM »

SupportFr.Starbuck - how were these postings 'inciteful'? Meaning 'to stir up', Or did you mean 'insightful' which means exhibiting insight? Quite a difference.

Cera · « **Reply #179 on:** January 04, 2022, 10:22:08 AM »

Quote from: Thorn on January 03, 2022, 06:20:40 PM

She stated that the principal in NOT the original one. Wasn't Mary Lewis the original one?

No. The first principal was Jim (I forget his last name).

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