The usurpers on the OLHC school board have now told Father Starbuck that they are putting him on on “vacation” and they will not permit him to say the Midnight Mass, nor any Christmas Masses.

Cera is exactly telling the truth and I think you are taking obstinately  one side in favor of the board member. NO Gossip at all. they gradually narrow and finally choke Fr Starbuck's priestly right in our Traditional Catholic chapel. not allowing to say mass Chirstmas eve midnight and after on until when? ( temporal or not) anyway the lay people have the authority to allow or permit or forbid whatever they want? Still do you think it is gossip?

Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to you also :-) It's unfortunate that you still don't see what is going on. IF you attend that chapel, you are contributing to the problem, period. If you don't attend that chapel? Then shouldn't you be baking cookies or something? If you can dish it out, then you should be able to take it. Oui?

My husband's point was mostly about women that stir up the pot. Legally you could be getting into big trouble. But keep going there Betty Crocker, you and your gal-pals (and yes, some of the men) are doing a bang-up job. He was trying to warn from experience, but has no dog in the fight. He feels sorry for all of you. And excuse me if I didn't count the actual number of men versus women. Small potatoes when the principle remains the same.

This is one reason why I cannot stand working with women, just sayin.' I will take a male boss any day, (unless I am the boss, which I have been). Being on any parish committee, women's group, or board with women is migraine-inducing. Two women is fine, anymore than that is time for Alka-Seltzer.

We were considering joining a certain parish once. I went around and around listening to a group of ladies that were arguing about how to cut brownies for a funeral reception. One lady was mad that I was wearing "her apron," (without a name on it), that had been handed to me by another lady "in charge." (I hate aprons, but wore it out of courtesy). They then proceeded to argue about slicing the buns, and how much the butter should be melted. They wanted me to join their group. "No thanks, I would rather wash my car." The best part of that women's group is the husband of one of the ladies that makes wicked perogies. YUM!

I have been surrounded with men the majority of my life, have worked a variety of highly skilled fields with huge responsibilities and have been appreciated for being able to do a job well and without a lot of trouble. I saved a man's life two weeks into a traditionally male-dominated field. He was ever so grateful. I had the respect of every man on that crew from day one or two. I wasn't sitting around on my butt wasting time or talking about getting my nails done. But that's nice once in awhile, too.

Lives depended on my position. Cattiness, gossip, and "Mrs. knows-what-she-said-he-said" would end up DEAD on the job because they would be too busy yakking and the machinery would be in their path. As just one detail of many, I was running hundreds of dump-trucks a day in and out/on a massive project. I was constantly bothered by a jealous female. Some of the attitudes here remind me of working with them in another field.

If you have problems in your chapel, then people need to stop posting names, discussing the Priests, and otherwise discussing it. You may find yourself in the centre of a lawsuit or two by your helpfulness. There are things called libel and slander and defamation of character, etc. Those things are very real. It would be a terrible thing to receive a legal letter for Christmas because people that go to Mass there don't know when to leave well enough alone and a number of people are sued. And if the Priest can't easily call 9-11 or needs a panic button, then one should be provided for him.

I lurked for almost 2 years on this board, and thought maybe it might be nice to actually sign up. I mentioned it to my husband and he said, "I hope it turns out to be a nice thing for you." "Well, they do have a private women's group, but I probably won't fit in there either. Not interested in discussing baby wipes or spit-up, and I could care less about knitting or swapping granny squares." "Well, darling, I hope for your sake there's some men there that like sports and camping and adventure and outdoor stuff. Otherwise I can't see you lasting too long on there either unless you find that needle in the haystack of a woman that can keep up with you." :-)

He could care less about my being on here as it has zippo to do with obedience and more to fact that I can't stand being around most Traditional Catholic women because they usually don't do any physical activities or sports after age 20, if that.

I have lost count of the number of times I have asked women to go for a walk, go for a bike ride, go skiing, go snowshoeing, go hiking, go camping, etc. "No, I am busy with the parish quilt-a-thon, bake-sale, bazaar, fill-in-the-blank parish thing," "No, I am too old for that," (as they complain about how much weight they have put on and that they can't touch their toes anymore, or can't lose their baby weight after 5, 6, 10 kids--have they tried?)

Any women here actually do or like any of the following?: Skiing (both kinds), snowshoeing, ice skating, horseback riding (English and Western), SCUBA diving, aquarium keeping, camping/survival stuff, hiking, walking, swimming, para sailing, water sports, snorkeling, exploring in caves, fixing things, cars, canning, gardening? Those are just a few things. There are other interests also. I gave some in my introduction about domestic things.

If you do, please let me know, and I may decide to hang around awhile longer. Otherwise, my penance is over for Advent, and this forum has wasted shockingly so much of my time in the short time that I have been here with little return on my investment. (My typing speed is back up there, so that's okay). I have learned a few things political-wise, and a couple of things about the Faith. But I honestly don't know what would keep me here. There is just a lot of weird posts about stuff that really has no business being here, but that's my opinion.

I have no interest in spoiling anyone else's time here and am quite happy being the black sheep. I have never been much of a follower and am a natural leader that is much more of a Joan of Arc than a shy daisy. I would happily stop at an accident for you, jumpstart your car, deliver your groceries, climb a ladder to clean your gutters, cook something for you, etc., whatever, but I hate wasting my time reading absolute drivel about parish issues. And no, I don't have to read those posts, but here it is in black and white:

I will side with the side of a Priest before any lay person, period. Without a Priest, you have no Mass, period. Y'all are cooking your own goose there by chasing away a good number of future Priests that may wish to say Mass, too. ***It will be a sad day if you don't have a Priest for Mass in the near future. Instead of being grateful for having the luxury of the Sacraments, there are too many swelled up with a pride that puts themselves above the office and authority and Holy Orders of the Priesthood.***

Do you realize that in Canada, there are MANY PEOPLE that cannot get to Mass for Christmas? They don't have any options to choose from, period? Y'all don't know what side your bread is buttered on. I am dead serious. Y'all are acting like a bunch of spoiled brats and ungrateful children!

I have never heard such sad talk about Priests ministering in a chapel from supposedly Traditional Catholics. (And uncanny, that it happens to be in CA, AGAIN. What, did a bunch of those Trads move from San Jose, Santa Monica or Watsonville to join your chapel? Crazy. I am beginning to think I have actually met some of you in real life! No way do I want to get entangled with those people again. I was much, much younger then, but already had it figured out there was something crazy about their trying to tell a Priest how to run his parish and school!)

There are also a lot of weird and paranoid posts about other topics, but I will excuse those because of the strange disinformation campaigns going on everywhere and the tendency for some people to be gullible.

Merry Christmas to all, and have a Wonderful New Year for 2022 should I stop posting in the near future, and you indeed do get your wish. :-)
God Bless you,
Anne

P.S. And I could care less about how many downvotes or thumb-downs or what-not I get by posting this either. Bring it all on!