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OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
« on: July 05, 2022, 10:34:39 AM »
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    • I could not believe my eyes when I saw it in their bulletin.  It is great Weist is no longer saying mass, but to turn to Fr. Hewko?  
    Does anyone know anything about Fr. Washicko?  I will continue to pray for all at OLHC, trying to continue the legacy of Fr. Schell, God rest his soul.  I am fairly certain he is not happy with Fr. Hewko is saying mass at OLHC.
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #1 on: July 05, 2022, 10:49:43 AM »
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    • Well, it just lists him as a "visiting" priest.  He is in fact an undoubtedly valid priest ... unlike some who have shown up there in the past.
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #2 on: July 05, 2022, 10:56:38 AM »
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    • From STAS
    Washiko center left, Hewko is deacon on the right.

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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #3 on: July 05, 2022, 11:03:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: St Giles on July 05, 2022, 10:56:38 AM
    I don't know for sure, but it is quite likely that there was a Washiko and Hewko recently ordained in the past 2-3 years. I knew they were at the seminary.
    I forgot Fr. Hewkos nephew was recently ordained.  I pray it is that Fr. Hewko rather than the one who was associates with the  Pfeiffer camp in KY.  Although, I am not sure how Fr. Schell would think about an sspx at the chapel.  An sspx priest never said mass while I was there.
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #4 on: July 05, 2022, 11:31:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on July 05, 2022, 11:03:50 AM
    I pray it is that Fr. Hewko rather than the one who was associates with the  Pfeiffer camp in KY.

    Not "associates" but "associated".
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #5 on: July 05, 2022, 11:40:39 AM »
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    • Fr Hewko hasn't been associated with Fr /Bishop Pfeiffer for over 3 years
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #6 on: July 05, 2022, 11:49:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on July 05, 2022, 10:34:39 AM
    I could not believe my eyes when I saw it in their bulletin.  It is great Weist is no longer saying mass, but to turn to Fr. Hewko? 
    Does anyone know anything about Fr. Washicko?  I will continue to pray for all at OLHC, trying to continue the legacy of Fr. Schell, God rest his soul.  I am fairly certain he is not happy with Fr. Hewko is saying mass at OLHC.
    Fr. Washiko was ordained last month.
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #7 on: July 05, 2022, 01:01:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on July 05, 2022, 11:40:39 AM
    Fr Hewko hasn't been associated with Fr /Bishop Pfeiffer for over 3 years
    Still has the same beliefs, though.
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #8 on: July 05, 2022, 01:01:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on July 05, 2022, 11:31:54 AM
    Not "associates" but "associated".
    Nope.  Associates.
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #9 on: July 05, 2022, 01:43:31 PM »
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    • The Fr Hewko mentioned in the newsletter is Fr James Hewko, Fr Davd Hewko's nephew. Fr Burfitt has also been saying Mass there recently. 
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #10 on: July 05, 2022, 04:14:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on July 05, 2022, 01:01:51 PM
    Nope.  Associates.

    Any proof?  Your saying "nope" due to your dislike of Father Pfeiffer doesn't make your allegation true.  As another poster mentioned, it's been several years.  Father Chazal also associated with Fr. Pfeiffer for a time.

    As for having the same beliefs, what are those ... other than the same beliefs held by a majority of the Resistance priests?
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #11 on: July 05, 2022, 04:27:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on July 05, 2022, 04:14:33 PM
    As for having the same beliefs, what are those ... other than the same beliefs held by a majority of the Resistance priests?

    The two big ones are:

    1) The heretical belief that a well-disposed communicant dos not receive an increase of sanctifying grace from a validly confected Eucharist at the Novus Ordo;

    2) Bishop Williamson is in the service of Bishop Fellay to lead a "false resistance" back into the arms of captured Menzingen (YouTube "Fr. Pfeiffer 2016 London conference");

    Beyond these, you can find a veritable litany of complaints from the pro-Hewko forum here:  https://thecatacombs.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=19

    And within that subforum, more specifically, here: https://thecatacombs.org/showthread.php?tid=1377 

    Its mostly nonsense, of course, but that doesn't stop them from saying it, or Fr. Hewko from "teaching" it.
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #12 on: July 05, 2022, 05:31:42 PM »
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    • There's nothing heretical about opinion #1 ... and #2 is merely speculative conspiracy theory.
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #13 on: July 05, 2022, 05:53:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on July 05, 2022, 05:31:42 PM
    There's nothing heretical about opinion #1

    The Protestant notion expounded by the Pfeifferians/Hewkonians is heretical, in light of Session 7 of the Council of Trent:

    CANON VI.-If any one saith, that the sacraments of the New Law do not contain the grace which they signify; or, that they do not confer that grace on those who do not place an obstacle thereunto...let him be anathema.

    CANON VII.-If any one saith, that grace, as far as God's part is concerned, is not given through the said sacraments, always, and to all men, even though they receive them rightly, but (only) sometimes, and to some persons; let him be anathema.

    This is precisely what they teach.
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    Re: OLHC, CA -- Weist out, Hewko in
    « Reply #14 on: July 05, 2022, 06:01:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on July 05, 2022, 05:53:39 PM
    The Protestant notion expounded by the Pfeifferians/Hewkonians is heretical, in light of Session 7 of the Council of Trent:

    CANON VI.-If any one saith, that the sacraments of the New Law do not contain the grace which they signify; or, that they do not confer that grace on those who do not place an obstacle thereunto...let him be anathema.

    CANON VII.-If any one saith, that grace, as far as God's part is concerned, is not given through the said sacraments, always, and to all men, even though they receive them rightly, but (only) sometimes, and to some persons; let him be anathema.

    This is precisely what they teach.

    And again against the condemned Protestant notion of sterile, graceless sacraments:

    ”The grace of the sacraments is infallibly produced in those who are capable and fit recipients, by reason of the sacred rite itself (ex opera operato)...”

    (Davis, Fr. H.  Moral and Pastoral Theology, Vol. III, p.3.  1943)
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