Author Topic: Fr. Purdy Doesn't Speak Spanish, Lectures Trads on "Proper" Title of OLGS (Read 11150 times)

Meg · « **Reply #35 on:** April 13, 2019, 12:16:04 PM »

Quote from: CestMoiJeanneMarie on April 13, 2019, 11:49:13 AM

I don't believe TIA is trying to establish themselves as the "sole and absolute authorities" on the matter, but if anything they are simply following a linguistic precedent that was set before they even published their books on Our Lady of Good Success. How do I know this? As I mentioned in another thread, Msgr. Luis Cadena y Almeida (a very educated priest, director of the Archiespiscopal Archive of the Curia of Quito, and the postulator for the cause of beatification for Mother Mariana) approved the English title of Our Lady of Good Success in the book titled "A Spanish Mystic in Quito", which was published in 1990 - almost ten years before TIA published their first book on Our Lady of Good Success (first edition was 1999).

If anyone is trying to set themselves up as the "absolute authorities", it is Fr. Purdy and the SSPX by trying to discredit all of the good faith research of TIA by imposing a new arbitrary "translation", Our Lady of Buen Suceso, which again, is not a translation, but Spanglish.

If Guimaraes doesn't consider himself the sole authority on the matter, then why are you so upset that I will not consider his view of the matter?

Why did you go ballistic if you yourself don't consider him to be the sole authority on the issue of the name of Our Lady at the shrine in Quito?

CestMoiJeanneMarie · « **Reply #36 on:** April 13, 2019, 12:28:22 PM »

Quote from: Incredulous on April 13, 2019, 12:04:52 PM

Cera,

I'm sorry to point out that you're avatar's Fatima invocation reeks of hypocrisy.

You defame Prof Plineo, while refusing to read or comprehend his docuмented VII Fatima history:

Bio excerpt:
In 1959, John XXIII announced his intention to convene a Council. Prof. Plinio warned Archbishop Sigaud and Bishop Mayer that they should study and prepare themselves intensively or they would be defeated by the progressivists at the Council. Unfortunately, they did not heed his advice.

Notwithstanding, Prof. Plinio, along with about 20 laymen, accompanied the Bishops to Rome for the First Session with the hope that they would have a positive influence. With these laymen he organized two petitions, signed by hundreds of Bishops: one asking the Council to condemn Communism; the other asking the Pope to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary as commanded in Fatima.

He sought out the Bishops of Communism-dominated countries asking them to affirm that the Church-Communism coexistence is against Catholic doctrine. Ukrainian Archbishop Ivan Bucko agreed to state this at the Council. Prof. Plinio wrote an intervention for him, but Msgr. Bucko changed his mind and did not address the topic in the Council. In May 1964, Prof. Plinio published that study: The Church and the Communist State: The Impossible Coexistence.

I agree Incredulous. I mentioned this in another post, but Cera and Meg seem to be full of personal attacks and insults. This is characteristic of people who are not only intellectually deficient, but also belong to a cult. Anyone that doesn't follow their "cult" gets insulted and intimidated, since they don't really have any other arguments based on reason and logic to back up their cult leaders/cult beliefs. Curious how Cera and Meg suddenly appeared on this forum with a barrage of anti-TIA/Atila/Plinio garbage only days after Atila published an article exposing the frauds of Fr. Purdy/SSPX.
I think I know what's going on here - it starts with "s" and rhymes with "pill".

CestMoiJeanneMarie · « **Reply #37 on:** April 13, 2019, 12:30:29 PM »

Quote from: Meg on April 13, 2019, 12:16:04 PM

If Guimaraes doesn't consider himself the sole authority on the matter, then why are you so upset that I will not consider his view of the matter?

Why did you go ballistic if you yourself don't consider him to be the sole authority on the issue of the name of Our Lady at the shrine in Quito?

More diversions, Meg. Is that all you have? Did you even read what I posted? You know, it is classical cult behavior when a person blocks out anything that can even slightly contradict his cult beliefs/cult leader.

I'm not upset that you don't consider his view on the matter - I just think it's interesting that you not only won't consider Guimaraes' view (a well established scholar in the Catholic world), but you also won't even consider the view of Msgr. Cadena y Almeida, which, as I said before above, is the authority in the cause of Mother Mariana and approved the English title Our Lady of Good Success almost 10 years before TIA ever started using it publicly. Cadena y Almeida has absolutely nothing to do with TIA, in fact I think he died already. You also don't consider the view of Dom Gueranger, who is widely considered the foremost expert on liturgy, and proves that the docuмent put out by Fr. Purdy contradicts the tradition of the Church. Again, Dom Gueranger has nothing to do with TIA.

If you don't consider the views of Msgr. Cadena y Almeida or Dom Gueranger, then whose views do you consider? The answer seems to be that you only consider the views of Fr. Purdy/SSPX, and anything that contradicts them you attack with a blood-thirsty vengeance. Now who is part of a cult here?

Meg · « **Reply #38 on:** April 13, 2019, 12:40:04 PM »

Quote from: CestMoiJeanneMarie on April 13, 2019, 12:30:29 PM

More diversions, Meg. Is that all you have? Did you even read what I posted? You know, it is classical cult behavior when a person blocks out anything that can even slightly contradict his cult beliefs/cult leader.

I'm not upset that you don't consider his view on the matter - I just think it's interesting that you not only won't consider Guimaraes' view (a well established scholar in the Catholic world), but you also won't even consider the view of Msgr. Cadena y Almeida, which, as I said before above, is the authority in the cause of Mother Mariana and approved the English title Our Lady of Good Success almost 10 years before TIA ever started using it publicly. Cadena y Almeida has absolutely nothing to do with TIA, in fact I think he died already. You also don't consider the view of Dom Gueranger, who is widely considered the foremost expert on liturgy, and proves that the docuмent put out by Fr. Purdy contradicts the tradition of the Church. Again, Dom Gueranger has nothing to do with TIA.

If you don't consider the views of Msgr. Cadena y Almeida or Dom Gueranger, then whose views do you consider? The answer seems to be that you only consider the views of Fr. Purdy/SSPX, and anything that contradicts them you attack with a blood-thirsty vengeance. Now who is part of a cult here?

I don't believe that it's a diversion to question Guimaraes. To those who have a cult mentality, everything is a diversion which calls their cult leader into question.

Msgr. Cadena y Almeida may have had good intentions. But he was a Novus Ordo priest, correct?

Also, if I remember correctly, you have asserted that in order to properly understand our Lady's title in Quito, one must well-understand both Spanish and English. So my question is: was Msgr. Cadena y Almeida fluent in English? I think that's an important question.

CestMoiJeanneMarie · « **Reply #39 on:** April 13, 2019, 02:44:48 PM »

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