Author Topic: Old Mass vs. New Mass (Read 5037 times)

TKGS · « **Reply #5 on:** April 14, 2015, 01:05:38 PM »

I just read your link. The Eucharistic Prayer #1 is not nearly as clear as you are making it out to be. The intention may be inferred (maybe) but it is not absolute and the intention has already been declared in the Offertory.

And given all of your newly written criteria, you obviously don't live in the real world with the rest of us.

TKGS · « **Reply #6 on:** April 14, 2015, 01:09:42 PM »

Is this where you say the sacrificial intent of the, so-called, Roman Canon of the New Order Service is clearly obvious:

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For them and all who are dear to them we you this sacrifice of praise or they offer it for themselves and all who are dear to them...

I don't think you actually read this. Without the Offertory, the intention is not really identified.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #7 on:** April 14, 2015, 01:11:24 PM »

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I just read your link. The Eucharistic Prayer #1 is not nearly as clear as you are making it out to be. The intention may be inferred (maybe) but it is not absolute and the intention has already been declared in the Offertory.

And given all of your newly written criteria, you obviously don't live in the real world with the rest of us.

Eucharistic Prayer #1 IS THE CANON OF THE TRIDENTINE MASS.

confederate catholic · « **Reply #8 on:** April 14, 2015, 01:26:30 PM »

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Eucharistic Prayer #1 IS THE CANON OF THE TRIDENTINE MASS.

exactly.

i wonder if people have actually read the things that they object to? it would be an interseting poll to see how many people have read the docuмents of Vatican II, or the N.O. mass texts including the 4 canons before they objected to them or did they object to them because others told them?
we should know what is actually there so our objections are logical

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #9 on:** April 14, 2015, 01:47:49 PM »

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Eucharistic Prayer #1 IS THE CANON OF THE TRIDENTINE MASS.

exactly.

i wonder if people have actually read the things that they object to? it would be an interseting poll to see how many people have read the docuмents of Vatican II, or the N.O. mass texts including the 4 canons before they objected to them or did they object to them because others told them?
we should know what is actually there so our objections are logical

I have read all the docuмents of V2 several times and all of JP2's encyclicals and the ""C"C"C" several times. I know what new Church teaches and how it operates and the purpose of its existence.

But your question is a good one. Many people regurgitate what other people say on any number of topics without being schooled in the topic itself.