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Offline Jehanne

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Obedience to a heretic....
« on: August 01, 2014, 06:27:03 AM »
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    • ....is worse than obedience to a murderer.  For the latter can only destroy the body, whereas, the former can destroy both body and one's eternal, immortal soul.

    For denying the Great Commission ("Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned", Mark 16:15-16), "Pope" Francis is at least a material, if not a formal, heretic.

    He is akin to a President who has betrayed the Constitution, even more so, for unlike a man who has betrayed an earthly king, Francis has betrayed the King of Heaven.

    It is immoral to support him and a sin to obey him.
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    Obedience to a heretic....
    « Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 07:40:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Jehanne

    For denying the Great Commission ("Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned", Mark 16:15-16), "Pope" Francis is at least a material, if not a formal, heretic.


    Great point--I believe his blatantly contradicting this command is one of the most telling things about his being heretical.  The other nonsensical un-Catholic things he's said has just enough wiggle room of ambiguity for doublespeak.
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    Obedience to a heretic....
    « Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 03:23:55 PM »
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    • But I thought one must submit to the Roman Pontiff to be Catholic?
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Obedience to a heretic....
    « Reply #3 on: August 01, 2014, 07:53:18 PM »
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    But I thought one must submit to the Roman Pontiff to be Catholic?


    I suppose the rule would be to "saluate the position and not necessarily the person."  A true Pope is not above his Magisterium just as the President is not above the Constitution.
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    Obedience to a heretic....
    « Reply #4 on: August 02, 2014, 06:43:09 AM »
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    But I thought one must submit to the Roman Pontiff to be Catholic?


    I suppose the rule would be to "saluate the position and not necessarily the person."  A true Pope is not above his Magisterium just as the President is not above the Constitution.


    What does that mean?  Are you sede now or not?
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Obedience to a heretic....
    « Reply #5 on: August 02, 2014, 07:28:34 PM »
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