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Author Topic: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism  (Read 6749 times)

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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #200 on: Yesterday at 03:24:20 PM »
Quote from: Lazarus on Yesterday at 02:40:07 PM
We do not have the legal authority to depose a false Pope, you are right. But we do not need to have him legally deposed in order to know that he is a heretic and an anti-Pope.
Wrong.  You're not an anti-pope until you’re deposed or legally declared a formal heretic.  St Bellarmine already told us what to do in the face of a pope who ACTS LIKE a heretic - resist and ignore him.  There is no world where a pope can be called a heretic by the laity.  Our opinion is meaningless.  
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Offline Michelle

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« Reply #201 on: Yesterday at 03:27:34 PM »
Quote from: Lazarus on Yesterday at 02:40:07 PM
You misunderstand the difference between a legal statement and a statement regarding the truth on what someone is.

Imagine if you see a criminal committing murder and you know who it is. Imagine that you have video evidence with his face on it that he committed murder.
But that man is very powerful, he is the leader of a mafia gang, he corrupted the judges and pays off witnesses or murders them so they cannot testify.

You have no authority to send him to jail, but you can testify and tell other people that this person is dangerous and is a murderer. As long as that man isn't officially arrested and prosecuted the law assumes he is innocent. But you know and all your community knows that he is truly a murderer. God knows he is a murderer. It doesnt matter that he corrupted the legal authorities, in the eyes of God his sins still condemn him.

We do not have the legal authority to depose a false Pope, you are right. But we do not need to have him legally deposed in order to know that he is a heretic and an anti-Pope.
If by a miracle a traditional Catholic man was placed on the throne of Peter today, would that solve the current apostasy? 
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Offline Lazarus

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« Reply #202 on: Yesterday at 03:37:30 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on Yesterday at 03:24:20 PM
Wrong.  You're not an anti-pope until you’re deposed or legally declared a formal heretic.  St Bellarmine already told us what to do in the face of a pope who ACTS LIKE a heretic - resist and ignore him.  There is no world where a pope can be called a heretic by the laity.  Our opinion is meaningless. 
Do you think God doesn't know if Bergoglio is a Pope or an anti-Pope before us humans depose him?
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Offline Lazarus

Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #203 on: Yesterday at 04:15:11 PM »
Quote from: Michelle on Yesterday at 03:27:34 PM
If by a miracle a traditional Catholic man was placed on the throne of Peter today, would that solve the current apostasy?
Not necessarily, because it is very likely he would get αssαssιnαtҽd. 
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Offline Michelle

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« Reply #204 on: Yesterday at 08:37:24 PM »
Quote from: Lazarus on Yesterday at 04:15:11 PM
Not necessarily, because it is very likely he would get αssαssιnαtҽd.
Let's say he doesn't get αssαssιnαtҽd.  How would a traditional Pope fix our current situation?
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