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Author Topic: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism  (Read 6286 times)

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For people who actually care about the truth (unlike those with false piety).

The Vatican II Popes could be considered to be mere material heretics until they sinned against the commandment "Thou shalt not have another god before me". Because this is part of natural law, we can presume that anyone who sins against this commandment is not a material heretic but a formal one.

And I am being generous by pretending the Vatican II Popes before then were merely material heretics.
I never thought of it like that. Could you back this up with a quote about the intention of someone who violates the first commandment?

How do you know they intend to violate the commandment? What if they intend to do what they deem is in conformity with Catholic teaching? 

I never thought of it like that. Could you back this up with a quote about the intention of someone who violates the first commandment?

How do you know they intend to violate the commandment? What if they intend to do what they deem is in conformity with Catholic teaching?
We can say a lot of things about Bergoglio, but he was very well learned.

https://seniorclassproducts.com/blogs/general/pope-francis-and-his-educational-journey?srsltid=AfmBOor3j1jMcpGuAEcO2aIplK_rZCS-d50VkL_7c2_1pJdvz3bal6hx

He was a chemist, had a master's degree in philosophy and the equivalent of a bachelor in theology.

The question is : can invincible ignorance apply to Bergoglio? That is what would be required for Bergoglio to err (believe in heresies) without fault of his own.

According to St Thomas Aquinas :

https://www.newadvent.org/summa/2094.htm

The natural law is the same in all men, it cannot be changed, and it cannot be abolished.


"Reply to Objection 1. Sin blots out the law of nature in particular cases, not universally, except perchance in regard to the secondary precepts of the natural law, in the way stated above.

Reply to Objection 2. Although grace is more efficacious than nature, yet nature is more essential to man, and therefore more enduring.

Reply to Objection 3. This argument is true of the secondary precepts of the natural law, against which some legislators have framed certain enactments which are unjust."

The law against idolatry is a primary precept of natural law. It is not secondary natural law.

Edit : I would like to say more, but the message got posted by error and I won't have the time to finish it fully when editing it.