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Author Topic: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism  (Read 6607 times)

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Offline Stubborn

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Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #170 on: May 28, 2026, 11:57:38 AM »
Our current circuмstances can not be compared to and reduced to just a heretical Pope but rather an entire new order (novus ordo) religion.  New "Mass", "saints", sacraments, doctrine, at every level on a global level.  This is a counterfeit religion of man and is NOT the Catholic Church.
You are not cooperating here.

Everyone here already knows the conciliar church is not the Catholic Church.

1) I posted what Pope Paul IV told us, which is not only a) the R&R position, it also proves b) that R&R is a teaching of the Church.

2) Now in order to prove your dogmatic sedeism is taught by the Church, your job is to show a teaching by a pope that contradicts the Church teaching I provided and which teaches sedeism. When you discover you cannot do this, perhaps THAT will cure you of your dogmatic sedeism.

3) If that doesn't cure you, then you must admit that you do not care what the Church teaches because your opinion is superior to what the Church teaches. 


Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #171 on: May 28, 2026, 12:02:35 PM »
You are not cooperating here.

Everyone here already knows the conciliar church is not the Catholic Church.

1) I posted what Pope Paul IV told us, which is not only a) the R&R  position, it also proves b) that R&R is a teaching of the Church.
I already refuted your nonsensical arguments.

You just ignored them with a cope pretending that I do not understand Paul IV's words.

You need to be cured of your dogmatic anti-sedevacantism. 


Offline Stubborn

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Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #172 on: May 28, 2026, 12:06:47 PM »
I already refuted your nonsensical arguments.

You just ignored them with a cope pretending that I do not understand Paul IV's words.

You need to be cured of your dogmatic anti-sedevacantism.
You did not refute anything. You gave an entirely new meaning to what Pope Paul IV taught then used your new meanings in order to justify your dogmatic sedeism. 

You need to post a pope teaching contrary to Pope Paul IV in order to show your dogmatic sedeism is a teaching of the Church - just as I did in order to show you that R&R is a teaching of the Church.

Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #173 on: May 28, 2026, 12:22:28 PM »
You did not refute anything. You gave an entirely new meaning to what Pope Paul IV taught then used your new meanings in order to justify your dogmatic sedeism. 

You need to post a pope teaching contrary to Pope Paul IV in order to show your dogmatic sedeism is a teaching of the Church - just as I did in order to show you that R&R is a teaching of the Church.
I quoted Pelagius I, St Pius X, and others. Yet you pretend I didn't quote any popes. 

Your strategy of denial doesn't work on me. 

Offline Stubborn

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Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #174 on: May 28, 2026, 02:04:15 PM »
I quoted Pelagius I, St Pius X, and others. Yet you pretend I didn't quote any popes.

Your strategy of denial doesn't work on me.
Your quotes did not teach dogmatic sedeism. Your quotes had zero to do with your sedeism. Pope Paul IV gives us crystal clear instruction on what to do about heretical popes, he teaches R&R. Read it again and again, until you understand what he taught. 

Do not abandon the meaning of his teaching under the pretext or in the name of a more profound understanding ever again - for your own good.

Understand that there is no pope who teaches dogmatic sedeism, or even plain old ordinary every day type of sedeism for that matter.

Yet here's you falsely claiming that "Pelagius I, St Pius X, and others" contradict the teaching of the Church as taught by Pope Paul IV. Try hard to avoid doing that from now on.