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Author Topic: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism  (Read 6598 times)

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Offline Michelle

Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2026, 02:45:51 PM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on May 22, 2026, 03:46:46 AM
Dogmatic sedes would have you believe that you are required to make up your mind about whether the Pope is a heretic or not, in order to be truly Catholic.

Why would our Lord Jesus Christ expect such a complicated decision to be made by faithful when theologians have struggled with it right up until the 20th century.

Common sense prudence tells us we stay away from things that don't look Catholic. So that means the novus ordo, liberal clergy etc. etc.

We should not have to be able to quote various quotations from theologians on the vacancy of the Papacy, like some pompous fool outside Church, in order to be a good Catholic.

It is absurd on it's face, and shame on dogmatic sedes for even implying it.
Is Billy Graham Catholic?  Is Robert Prevost Catholic?  Is the new Anglican bishop Catholic? How about New York bishop Dolan, is he Catholic?
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Online Lazarus

Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2026, 02:56:55 PM »
Quote from: Godefroy on May 22, 2026, 06:50:09 AM
How many dogmatic sedes have you identified on this forum?
None, because "dogmatic sedes" don't exist. There is literally no one in the entire sedevacantist community that believes sedevacantism is "de fide". To claim otherwise would require gross ignorance on the subject of theology. 

It's just angry buzzwords from someone with a lot of hatred. 
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2026, 03:08:51 PM »
Quote from: Godefroy on May 22, 2026, 06:50:09 AM
How many dogmatic sedes have you identified on this forum?

Do you understand what I mean by this .
Please explain.

Otherwise your remark is unhelpful and smug
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2026, 03:09:38 PM »
Quote from: Persto on May 22, 2026, 07:11:35 AM
You forgot to mention the post V2 "men in white" who implemented and carried out a revolution against the Catholic Faith.  Calling them what they are: not Catholic- is what sedevacantism is really about.  And we know that you need to be Catholic to be a pope...that is also common sense.
Calling them anything at all is the problem.
Just stay away from what you see in your local parish. And keep it at that.
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2026, 03:11:00 PM »
Quote from: Simeon on May 22, 2026, 09:14:59 AM
"Dogmatic sede" is a meaningless epithet thrown at people in order to make others depart from them. It's the same as saying, "Manfred has the cooties."

No, you silly woman.
It's a necessary distinction because I have nothing against having it as an opinion. The issue is when it becomes practially dogmatic. 
Come back when your husband is ready to post online and talk to me please.
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