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Offline epiphany

Novus Ordo service abuses
« on: July 09, 2022, 07:56:28 PM »
It is no wonder the Church is in crisis...
A Typical Novus Ordo Service

Novus Ordo MessFr. Billy Bob Presiding at the Altar "Table"
While the Band of Piano, Guitars, and Drums
Renders "Oecuмenical" (Protestant) Songs

[Go here for photos of more examples:
http://traditio.com/nos.htm ]

Here are just a few other Novus Ordo Messes docuмented without photos (far from a complete list):
  • "Bagel" Mess -- in which bagels are used as the matter (Long Island, New York, May 8, 2004)
  • "Ballet" Mess -- in which young girls dressed for a ballet dance up the aisles of the church (St. Anthony Daniel's Church, Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada, March 10, 2000)
  • "Basketball" Mess -- in which the presbyter walks around the Novus Ordo "table" and the "sanctuary" bouncing a basketball while performing Mess play by play into a wireless microphone (Long Island, New York, May 2003)
  • "Black" Mess -- in which Satanic principles or forces are invoked
  • "Candy" Mess -- in which candy is used for "communion"
  • "Cat in the Hat" Mess -- in which at Christmas Midnight Mess, the presbyter during the homily put on a Cat-in-the-Hat hat (Presbyter Wayne Morris, St. Joseph Church, Ironton, Ohio, December 25, 2003)
  • "Coffee" Mess -- in which coffee is used for "communion"
  • "Cookie" Mess -- in which invalidating ingredients are used (said to characterize the majority of messes held in the United States)
  • "Dracula" Mess -- in which a presbyter vests after the fashion of Bela Lugosi in Dracula (Trenton, New Jersey, 2003)
  • "Elvis" Mess -- in which a portrait of Elvis Presley is displayed around the Novus Ordo "table" (Portugal, 1982)
  • "Fruit" Mess -- in which fruit is used as the matter, and Buddhist chant and local pagan practices are also incorporated into the Mess (performed at a Jesuit college)
  • "Gingerbread" Mess -- in which the matter is baked in the shape of a gingerbread man, and when communicants tear off a piece of "Mr. Gingerbread," the presbyter yells "ouch"
  • "Girl Scout" Mess -- in which Girl Scout medals are given out, with an all-female cast: Eucharistic ministresses, Novus Ordo "table" servettes, etc.
  • "Golf" Mess -- a Sunday mess scheduled on Saturday afternoon and erroneously called "vigil," to allow people to devote Sunday to playing golf and other non-religious activities; also done in an effort to Judaize the Church by transferring the Mess from Sunday to Saturday, the Jєωιѕн Sabbath
  • "Halloween" Mess -- in which participants come in Halloween costumes (Christ the King Parish, Pleasant Hill, October 31, 2003)
  • "Hockey" Mess -- in which the presbyter wears white vestments with a hockey team logo in the center and arranges for signs to be held up in the back of the church with hockey scores (Detroit, May 2002)
  • "Jazz" Mess -- in which pagan "jazz" music accompanies the service (Sundays at Our Lady of the Rosary Church, New Orleans, Louisiana)
  • "K-9" Mess -- in which dogs appear to share in the Mess and possibly partake of the "cookie" (Novus Ordo Presbyter Stephen De Bono, St. Therese Church, Padstow, Australia)
  • "Lobster" Mess -- in which the presbyter wore a lobster hat from a local take-out restaurant (Our Lady Queen of Martyrs Church, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, 2002).
  • "Mariachi" Mess -- in which sacred music is replaced by the profane mariachi guitar
  • "Pumpkin" Mess -- in which white witchcraft (wicca) is introduced, in the form of a giant pumpkin on the Novus Ordo "table" (Pleasant Hill, California, October 31, 2003)
  • "Rock" Mess -- in which a rock band takes the place of a choir and organ
  • "Seance" Mess -- in which, held at 11:15 p.m., all the lights are dimmed, and candles of various colors and shapes with various non-religious symbols on them are used as the only light
  • "Servette" Mess -- in which girls take the place of Novus Ordo "table" boys or men (this Mess is quite common in the United States)
  • "Sofa" Mess -- in which Novus Ordo Presbyter Vincent Sciortino, O.Carm, on December 12, 2004, on Maltese Super 1 TV, performed the Novus Ordo service while sitting on a couch, and the congregation received the cookie while seated and cross-legged

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Offline epiphany

Re: Novus Ordo service abuses
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2022, 08:04:35 PM »
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Offline epiphany

Re: Novus Ordo service abuses
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Is it any wonder Catholics are falling away from the Church?
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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

Re: Novus Ordo service abuses
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2022, 08:23:22 PM »
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Offline Minnesota

Re: Novus Ordo service abuses
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2022, 08:36:47 PM »
The Novus Ordo isn't the problem. IMO, there were men being ordained priests back then that had no actual vocation to the priesthood. They were shoved through the seminary with no actual care for whether they'd be shepherds for the Faith or not. And it's clear a lot of them were meant to be laymen.

The vast majority of these photos are from priests formed before the Council and slightly after. That group of priests is the most responsible for not only liturgical abuse, but the sex abuse cases that rocked the Church.
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